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Two of the women whose dress was deemed inappropriate by the security guard at the Supreme Court Complex yesterday. (Picture by Gregory Waldron.)
Published on: 10/8/2009.
by Donna Sealy
SEVERAL PEOPLE trying to conduct business at the Registration Department yesterday were turned away.
And it had nothing to do with a system failure at the spanking new Barbados Supreme Court Complex at Whitepark Road, St Michael but rather how the people were dressed.
The people, mostly women, were not allowed past the security scanners and into the department to apply for or collect birth, marriage and death certificates, decree absolutes or transact other business.
"What am I supposed to do," queried one woman after being told politely by the security guard she would not be allowed to proceed because she was wearing a sleeveless shirt.
The visibly upset woman told the DAILY NATION she wanted to collect a document for someone who is travelling today and returning home to change was not an option.
She eventually asked another person to collect it for her, which was done.
Another woman, who accompanied her daughter to the department to register her grandson's birth, was hopping mad.
"This is unfair. This is bare foolishness," she said as she waited outside in the heat. Wearing a pair of shorts, a sleeveless shirt and a pair of slippers, she said she was not aware of a dress code and suggested that authorities notify the public accordingly.
Other people, who were refused entry because of footwear, asked what provisions were made for diabetics or those who had other health-related issues and could not wear another type of shoe.
Asked why there was no sign related to dress outside the department, an official said, "because they don't want the building defaced."
There is however, a typed notice dated 2008-05-02, taped to a cabinet just inside of the entrance which is not prominently displayed.
It reads in part: "All persons conducting business in the courts, the precincts of the courts or within the various sections of this Department should be dressed appropriately."
The restricted wear includes blouses and dresses with straps, "back out or belly out" garments, mini skirts, shorts, slippers and curlers.
Men cannot wear earrings or body rings or shorts and all cell phones must be turned off.
Efforts to reach the Registrar of the Supreme Court, Marva Clarke were unsuccessful and a call to Deputy Registrar Laurie Ann Smith-Bovell was not returned.
An official said that rules related to dress were always in place and noted that a sign would soon be erected in a place where it would be seen by everyone conducting business.
The dress code is not new. It was posted on a security guard hut and on the door of the Registration Department at the former location at Coleridge Street.
* donnasealy@nationnew.com
166 comment found!
: 10/15/2009
Mandy : wake up -go and read up =Read Walter Rodney. Read Eric Williams. Read CLR James to get a true perspective on Caribbean life. Mandy , you are lost.Read anything on de-colonisation in Africa. Read about Errol Barrow. Read about Grantley Adams. Read about the 1937 Riots. Read about colonialism. Read about life in Barbados during the early 20th century. Dont bury your head in the sand. Black people did not have it easy MANDY and that was just the other day -yuh know !-you need to awake from your slumber. You say you are educated !
To I wonder : 10/15/2009
I worked in the Education Service in London for many years and you should have seen how some teachers turned up for work in the classrooms- scruffy, scruffy. I also worked in an office stting and one day a female clerical officer came to work with her top turned on the wrong side. I politely pointed out to her that her top was turned on the wrong side and she said she was aware of that, and explained that the other side (correct side) was too dirty. I am being serious and she was not black either. Most places of employment have dress codes for employees and I suppose there is nothing wrong in expecting certain standards of attire to obtain for employees as well as for visitors. I have observed that certain shops in Barbados enforce dress regulations on Tourists and residents - no swimwear without a wrap-round, no flip flops, no bear backs etc. Decency should prevail.
I wonder : 10/15/2009
I wonder what the PM was wearing when he turned up in London. I am sure he was properly clad. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that our society is governed by rules and laws. If one is supposed to dress in a certain way in order for them to do business with a particular organization, they should adhere to the rules. I would bet if they were invited to see Her Majesty that they would not go in slip-slops and skirts way about their knees. Be realistic.
: 10/15/2009
There is nothing wrong with the implementation of rules but my concern is: why is it so easy to implement a set of rules for one thing but for others there are no rules. Why have the government of Barbados not enact legislation that will make it impossible for ministers and top ranking civil servants to award contracts to family members and spouses. Why is there no rule put in place for politicians to declare all assets. Yet for the average bajan you put a dress code rule in place (because of your new spanking mulit-million dollar complex) like if people's clothing can compare to the issue of millions of dollars in cost overuns and the selling of government lands to the highest bidder. If we are implementing rules let us not just look to control the average bajan but the above average bajan as well. After all Rules is Rules.
Rules are rules : 10/15/2009
The comments posted here are all symptomatic of the true rot in our society .I maintain there is time and place for evrything . I am educated enough to know that a growing majority of our people intend to flout the laws of the land and blame the system ,(who ever that is ) ,The white man and slavery for their lack of decency and respect . I will maintain that the crap we do here we would go to metropolitan countries and marvel at how clean the streets are and other things .However familiarity breeds contempt . This is your country so you can do as you please when you please and how you please and no one says anything . You lot get and listen to persons like David Commisiong , Peter Wickham , Andrew Pilgrim and other commentators and all persons of that ilk that sound so sincere in there drivel .Corrupting the minds of those that are less educated or disgruntled and are just waiting to hear someone who seem to be in their corner .However you cannot see that the way these same persons move .These persons are not white or European but they are doing just as much harm . The idea is to divide and rule . We mind every one else but our own businesss .No wonder you same lot will get and blog alot of rot here about young people and their behaviour . They are only doing what they see the adults doing .No one intends to listen .All of a sudden it is about rights but we can not or do not intend to see our wrongs . Which teacher or factory worker works in AC . Pointer sister huh pointing others and her self i nthe wrong direction . biding by the rules you seem to type for typing sake . It appears the worse thing that ever happened to this island happened in 1627 . We as a people need to take responsibility for our own actions and stop blaming .If each and every one of us do as we ought to Barbados will be better .Like it or not every society has rules .
Dress Code : 10/15/2009
Having read so much controversy with regards to the dress code, I would like to take this opportunity to make some comments of my own. Firstly, there has always been a dress code in Barbados (custom and practice). a) There was the dress code for church. Women wore hats, dresses with long or short sleeves, proper lengths and upper coverage appropriately. Men wore suits, ties and appropriately groomed hair. Young men wore sleeves long or short with a tie, shirt tucked into long pants and shoes. Boys wore short or long sleeves, tucked into trousers with shoes. Young girls wore hats, dresses that covered them (not necessarily long sleeves), shoes and socks (or stockings where appropriate). b) Going to town (shopping). Men wore short or long sleeves tucked into pants and shoes (elderly wore a tie). For the women, they wore their hair well groomed, dresses with or without sleeves, skirts and blouses (all of appropriate length) and shoes. c) Picnics and outings. Young girls wore pedal pushers or dresses without sleeves, can-cans, and socks and shoes. Hair was always well groomed. Men wore short-sleeved shirts and trousers, shoes and socks. No one ever wore shorts in those days. Older men wore long sleeves and ties and shoes. The older women went in dresses but without their hats on. They still wore their stockings and shoes and even a handbag. d) The workplace. Men wore suits, collar and tie, well pressed trousers, well polished shoes and well groomed hair. Teachers and office workers (women) wore dresses of a proper length, skirts and blouses, long or short sleeves, high-heeled shoes and stockings. Hair was once again well groomed. e) School attire. The girls wore pinafore uniforms or skirts and blouses, properly cleaned shoes and socks. Their hair was properly combed, with or without ribbons. No hair colourings, make-up or nail polish or jewelry. The boys wore short pants in the lower school and long pants in the upper. Hair was cut and combed and shoes polished. The reason all these changes have taken place is because in high places they have decided to dress to suit themselves but still want to enforce proper behaviour with regards to dress to the people beneath them, eg ministers’ wives dressing inappropriately, attending functions in trouser suits, having their hair shaved off and looking manly. Then in the church ministers’ wives are wearing no headgear and short sleeves but then those in authority in general, eg banks, churches, schools, government are all dressing untidily. Men have long hair which is unkempt and they have ear-rings in their ears with inappropriate clothing. Their behaviour is also inappropriate. But then we attack the subjects, telling them that the one good item of clothing they have is to be worn just to pick up a document. There are more important things which the government and the people in the courts should be addressing as these things in the near future are going to have a devastating effect on this island. We are a God-fearing island with our own religious forms of worship which are conducive to all our residents here and I therefore think, in saying that the government should pay attention to issues which affect our dress code is allowing these external factors in the name of money to come into the country having their faces hidden, secluding themselves from others and wanting to start their own forms of worship. This is one of the issues wherein the very people of Barbados, as well as the government, should be looking into. No Barbadian can go into any of these other Islamic countries and start opening up Churches of God, Nazarenes, Catholic, C of E or Pentecostal places of worship. Neither can you wear your own dress code; you have to adhere to the policies of those places. Yet still, as Barbadians, we are being hoodwinked that these people are good for the economy. Now tell me in which way, show me the benefits that we have received and how has the island excelled from these outsiders being allowed to come in and set up their own way of life. There is so much to say but deep-seated anger is hindering the rational process of thought. OVB, London
: 10/14/2009
yeah that woman on the Call in Programne is a good example of the kind of heartless , humanless, insensitive attidude of a lot of people in this society. These kind of people alienate other people with their crass, insensitive ways and contribute to delinquency among other people. The call in programne 'WOMAN' sounds like a person who would be inflexible in dealing with the public and would refuse to use her discretion. I dont like how Barbados is going at the moment. They have some very hard and inflexible people in Government offices who bark and shout at people only because they have a little authority to process a document or documents and to keep the public waiting. Some of these people punish the public by treating the public including old people very BAD.On the other hand there are some very nice public servants such as to be found at the Land Tax Department and the Ministry of Education who treat the public well and who set good examples.
: 10/14/2009
sam, i heard the same thing and if i had my way i would flog that same woman every day until she under stood that she did not have the right to tell people what to wear,and all the people that think like her,what surprise me the moderator did not object to the way she said it
: 10/14/2009
MANDY is a good example of the kind of persons who are in slumber.THEY dont see or hear or know anything about anything=BLIND TO CERTAIN THINGS =SLAVES in waiting again.
: 10/13/2009
To A. These rules were highly televised last year on the television it was repeated over and over again, but we as a people like to do as we like and as someone said when we travel we have to adhere to the countries rules.
: 10/13/2009
You cannot even recommend to people to dress in a similar manner as they would for church.Standards have fallen in every aspect of our everyday lives.
Rules : 10/13/2009
Mandy you talking a lot of ROT, these women were not going to work at the courts. Everyone you spoke of is working in AC comfort. These women were just going to pick up documents, must they dress in white gloves and ruffled tunics for that? clothes no longer makes the man. Intelligence does. For instance, two church women went to lunch wearing their church hats, the guard refused to let them into the restaurant telling them that hats were not allowed. I think that was Mandy's brother. LOL
DRESS STRESS : 10/13/2009
There is no reason for the name calling on both sides of the argument. I am sure this rule was not made up over night. Like most things in Barbados need to be change. It so happen that this is one of those things that are lagging behind for change. Barbados have come a long way in it's development, yet the QEH is a mess. The Port is a mess. Customer relations is still bad. I hope that some change to this rule will come out of this debate. Bajan in Boston.
: 10/13/2009
i JUST HEARD A FEMALE CALLER ON THE CALL IN PROGRAMNE SAYING that the next time this lady goes to the Court , she would know how to dress and dress properly (or words to that effect. AND she said case closed in a a kind of snobbish way that I abosolutely detest. Tuesday -1:50 pm the last Tuesday of the second week of October 2009.
: 10/13/2009
bajans that want people to dress according to there taste don't get it,let me explain it to you one if you are working for the government you are providing a service to the public therefore the government want you to dress in a particular manner there are your employers,two, if you are employed in the private sector your employer tells you how they want you to dress when meeting the public again here you are providing a service,it is not your job to tell the public how to dress,the only thing that govern the public attire they must not be naked hence no private parts be exposed,i hope you get it now.And please take note of the word YOU
: 10/12/2009
THIS is my response to "30 degrees and naked by MANDY"-----MANDY please come into the real world. Please awake from your slumber. Please read up on History with special reference to caribbean slavery. Register at UWI , FOR SPECIAL CLASSES, -you dont have to be a student to learn something. You need educating MANDY TO CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES.
: 10/12/2009
This is now being brought to attention because it is the new court, but forever and a day you could not enter the old court "inappropiately" dressed, not even to visit a friend. The rule is not new to the new courts.
DRESS STRESS : 10/12/2009
I find it truly amazing that people would leave their homeland and move to other countries and obey their laws with no questions asked but when it come to obeying laws in their own country they make a big fuss. Anyhow, most Bajans seem tohave abandoned their pride in the way they dress and carry themselves, so a little reminder can not hurt.
dress at court : 10/12/2009
If ever you travel you adhere to the standards set before in the land you have arrived in... it is shameful that primarily women are the culprits but why are so many surprised at this... look around town and streets does it appear to you that a lot of women have any sense of decency... and you wonder why this country seems to be going down in standards... to the Judicial courts KEEP YOUR STANDARDS do not surcome to this nonsense.
dress codes : 10/12/2009
In light of all the many dollars spent on building the new courts and to think no one had the foresight to have decent signage in place when it opened. Think of it people, years in the making and not one so called smart person in the whole place could figure out they need appropriate signage, what a sad lot of "professionals". Dress codes are fine, BUT you have to let people know beforehand they are in place.
30 degrees and naked . : 10/12/2009
THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN ,even if it is in Barbados which is hot . We hate to follow rules and wonder why the children are not hearing and doing their own thing .They are mimicing the adults around them . The sun is hot so i take off my cotton shirt and stay with my bra on in the office or on the factory floor .The sun is over 30 degrees so the nurse backs her top and do the same .The teacher is hot so she decides on leaving home to forget about the skirt and go in her boy shorts . We in Barbados are full of excuses . We seem not to want to follow the rules set but it is amazing the things we do else where . We go to the USA and fall in line otherwise we end up on the streets . We make sure and put on all the coats in the world when it is cold . Although we are not accustomed to much clothes back home .We get a job and go to work in the snow ,hail ,sleet and rain .Back in Bim outside only have to llok overcast and we will stay home . ALL we ever do arounfd here is encourage other people to flout the laws while we do as required . A proper cotton shirt and a pair of shoes will amke her roast? How much longer will the Europeans be blamed for or hate of authority ?
DRESS CODE : 10/12/2009
WE TALK ABOUT THE WHITE PEOPLE TREATING THE BLACK PEOPLE UNFAIRLY BUT AS ABLACK PERSON I THINK I KNOW IT OUR OWN COLOUR THAT IS DOING IT US, WHEN THE PRIM MINISTER CAME TO ENGLAND TWO OR THREE WEEK AGO HE WAS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DRESS CODE HE WAS FREE TO DO WHAT EVER HE WANTED AND GO WERE HE WANTED SO WHY ARE THEY TELLING THE PEOPLE OF BARBADOS WHAT CLOTHE TO WEAR, AS LONG AS THESE PEOPLE ARE COVER UP THEIR SHOULD NOT BE TOLD WHAT TO WEAR/ I THINK THAT SOME ONE SHOULD TAKE THIS MATTER UP THE EUOPEAN COURT FO HUMAM RIGHT BEACUSE I FEEL THAT THE GOVERMANT IS INFINGING THE THE PEOLPE RIGHT IN BARBADOS. WHY DONT,T THEIR ADDRESS THE PROMBLEM HAVING TO WAIT SO LONG TO GET YOUR DOCUMENT THEIR MUS T UNSTAND THE IT IS VERY HOT AND WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT IN THE HOT SUN DRESS IN SUITE AND TIE IT COULD BE VERY HOT INDEED ALL THEIR HAVE TO DO IS TO TELL PEOPLE DRESS APPROPRIATELY AFTER ALL THEIR ARE NOT GOING TO CHURCH WERE YOU HAVE TO WEAR YOUR SUNDAY BEST. LONDON
Thinking Bajan. : 10/12/2009
I left Barbados more than 47 yrs.was fortunate to see many other places and worked with people of different nationalities and I realise that when you born in Barbados, and never leave even for a short time, you will always think inside the box. Free speech is not even protected in Barbados. That`s all I`ll say for now. NYB.
Need to speak up! : 10/12/2009
I read this article with disbelief thinking what next? When we should try to be our brother's keeper, help each other out, be a good neighbor, friend, we are constantly being put in a situation that causes us to divide. By asking a security guard to enforce a rule of this nature he must turn away everyday people who just want to get on with their life with a rule I am sure that makes no sense even to him. It feeds into us being judgemental and critical of each other. Bajans are far too passive in nature and accept all types of inequalities that disguises as law. We are conservative people. If the rule was made for scantily dress persons, regardless of sex I would get it, by that I mean swimsuits, booty rider shorts etc. What the government should have instead is a log to record the time people enter the building, the nature of the business and the time it takes them to complete it. Far more useful task for the guards and it would highlight the lack of efficiency in their offices when they see it take an hour to collect a document. Politicans please take note. Bajan-Cal
thats a good joke : 10/11/2009
oh hahh ah ah , aaaaaaahhh lol, that is funny really funny.
: 10/11/2009
Dress code : 10/11/2009
Government as well as private industries has the right to set up proper dress codes for conducting their business. You give people an inch and they will take a mile. If they want to do business and don't want to follow the rules they should be ask to leave. I also hope this is done for the tourists that would take the liberty to walk into stores barefoot and in bikinis. They cannot do this in their countries because they would be hauled off to jail or to some mental asylum. Stick to your rules and let the chips fall where they may.
dress : 10/11/2009
Apparently the Bajan officials have not been outside of Barbados. Every country and/or culture accepts that attire as casual and comfortable. Should these ladies be denied because they are not in heels and a dress?
: 10/11/2009
THE DRESS CODE IS DISCRIMINATION. It is also about judging people by appearances that is why some wicked people dress up in jacket and ties because they know that such dress is guaranteed to convey a certain impression and that they can get away with anything. Barbadians need educating.
Dress Stress : 10/11/2009
I am a born Barbadian who left Barbados to persue my higher education in North America. Over the years I have returned to Barbados on vacation and I am pleased to see there has been a lot of progress made. However, this law regarding short sleves not being allowed is way too extreem. Both of those ladies are properly dressed and the law needs to be changed. They are many issues in Barbados that need to be addressed with laws that will benifit the people. Please work on those and do not allow the elected officials that make these type of laws look and sound stupid.
Dress Code : 10/11/2009
I have no problem with a dress code. Bajans need to dress properly when conducting business in peopls offices. How would it look if I turn up for work at the same court dres in are hole and slipper, claiming it is hot. Stupse. I wish this was a rule at more business places, I am sick and tired of seeing persons dressed like the lady in read coming into offices to conduct business. COVER UP AND SHUT UP!
Dress Code : 10/10/2009
The rules state the following as restricted wear: blouses and dresses with straps, Slippers. The ladies in the above picture are wearing sleeveless tops not straps and sandles not slippers, there is a difference. To the comment from A. Williams stating that slippers and cut-off shorts should be worn in the house, you obviously do not know the difference, they are called Bermuda Shorts and sandals which would be worn by any person living in or visiting a hot country. What is wrong with that? This is 2009 not the dark ages you seem to be stuck in.
TO NOT SO SMART AS OTHERS : 10/10/2009
Sir, you made a good point, but I wish you would let us know exactly what you lost. Oh, by the way, where is Dr. Ben Haynes PSYD? We are truly missing his debates with you.
DRESS STRESS : 10/10/2009
So many comments about a dress code. There has been little mention of customer service in Bim which is real poor. Little mention of the way authority treats their citizens, this too is poor. If we are talking about standards in dress, we should also have a "speech code" too. Speak to your bros & sistas politely, explain things to them as you would like it explained to you and be conscious that your conversation is between you and them and not for others to hear which, at times, can be quite embarrassing.
Too Extreme : 10/10/2009
I can understand having a dress code in place, but it is too extreme. The women above dress well and there is no reason why they should not be allowed to pick up their documents. Arm holes are worn to work, and with the hot climate we live in, why should you ask people to bedeck in long sleeve and jackets. If I am in town and have to pick up a document from the registry, there is absolutely no reason that I should change my dress if I am elegantly casual, and this encludes wearing an armhole outfit. The goverment needs to stop worrying about such trivial things, and focus on the things that they need to put their efforts. You are treading on dangerous grounds, come on stop the nonsense. WE WEAR ARMHOLE AND JEWELRY IN CHUCH. We need to stop judging people on appearance. Wonder what would happen if a tourist came in with armhole. The person might be on a one day visit.
DRESS CODE NONSENSE: : 10/10/2009
RULES SUCH AS THESE,ARE THE REASON WHY MANY OF US WHO HAVE RETIRED ARE NOT RETURNING HOME. I WOULD RATHER STAY IN THE COLD CLIMES OF CANADA,KNOWING IF I AM BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST,I HAVE LAWS TO PROTECT ME,AND LEAVE BARBADOS TO THOSE BAJANS WHO THINK WE SHOULD KEEP OUR MOUTHS SHUT. MAYBE WE SHOULD ALSO KEEP OUR WALLETS CLOSED.
: 10/10/2009
I have always said that rules need to be sensible. Rules such as these are outrageous and silly. I would rather if they deal with the poor working attitudes and the lack of manners of most government workers and why you still have to wait so long for documents, etc. Guess it is always easier to make life difficult for others before fixing what is wrong with your own.
To Bajan in Bim : 10/9/2009
Bajan in Bim I can assure you that the US embassy does not have those ridiculous rules regarding dress. Shirt and shoes are all that are required. Get you facts straight. As long as I have bajan citizenship, which as I can remember is forever I will feel free to comment to any issue going on there.
: 10/9/2009
This dresscode business should be altered slightly if people are going to collect items like birth certificates, divorce papers etc there is no need to have a dress code because Barbados is a hot country and people need to wear casual clothes however if you are appearing in court, meeting with officials, attending interviews etc. you should be well presented and apropiately dresses and that should go fo all staff and officials at the Court in other countries there is not a dress code for collecting items from the supreme/high courts you go along do your business and leave on the other hand where people are appearing in court etc people always dress appropiately and are always well presented.
Oh LAWD : 10/9/2009
To BAJAN in NJ. Don't get your knickers all in a bind. Chances are most of these negative posts are not being made by BAJANS but rather by people pretending to be Bajans....just like some people pretend to be "doctors" (hint) LOL
R U REALLY BAJAN? : 10/9/2009
To Concern Bajan: You call your self a "bajan" yet you refer to Barbados as "their" country. To Modest Bajan: Would foreign 14 year old students really be that interested in what the Speaker of the house in Barbados wears?
NAKED STATEMENTS : 10/9/2009
TO BAJAN IN BIM: Let me ask you this question: If I am a Bajan living in America or Canada who returns home to Barbados on a vacation and a situation arises where I have to go to collect a copy of my birth certificate from the Registration Department would I not also be subject to the dress code rules? And if I am so subjected, should I not be also allowed to comment on this matter? I thought you made a valid point about the law courts of Barbados or the Registry being no different from that of the U.S Embassy and as such if we could respect their rules and regulations then we should also respect those of the Barbados government. However, the efectiveness of that point, in my opinion, was lost by your last necessary statement.
A Thought : 10/9/2009
To all those persons who say that the adherence to this dress code harkens back to the days of colonialism, let me ask this question: Did England ever had a monopoly on dressing decently?
: 10/9/2009
COME TO MIAMI AND SEE HOW WE DRESS. EVEN THE POLICE ARE WEARING SHORTS. MIAMI IS HOT JUST LIKE BARBAOS. ITS FUNNY, BARBADOS WANTS TO IMMITATE UP NORTH,BUT NOT WHEN ITS APPROPRIATE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOW THE WOMEN ARE DRESSED, THEY ARE NOT NAKED.
Be Reasonable and Considerate : 10/9/2009
This situation is interesting. A dress code for a government building is not so bad, especially if you are working there; however the committee making these rules for people visiting the business need to be reasonable and considerate. Sleeveless tops not allowed is funny and a little insensitive, the flip flops or slippers and hair curlers yes I can appreciate are inappropriate. Guys wearing earrings etc is too extreme; body piercings is a personal choice and cannot interfere with how a person conducts business; if that person was going to court I can see where it would be inappropriate. Please be reasonable when making these rules.
Just Plain Stupid : 10/9/2009
Dress code to pick up documents? You've got to be kidding me. There's nothing wrong with the way those ladies are dress; they bodies are covered; it's not like they're actually going into court, they're just there to pick up documents. This dress code is just plain stupid. Another stupid law is no camouflage clothing (T-Shirts, pants, short, etc.)is allowed to be worn out in public. Just plain stupid.
: 10/9/2009
Good! At last! Most people want to follow 'fashion' which very often doesn't suit them and secondly...why do people want to look 'tacky'?
Very ashamed : 10/9/2009
I don't see anythin wron with way those two ladies were dressed.I could understand if they had the skirts under their butts where they could'nt bend over or the breast hanging out, but that was'nt the case.Come on who ever made this rule give the folks some slack.I live in NY and work for some very rich folks.They are planning a trip to Bim for the very first time because of me and the way I speak of my sweet Island Barbados.Know the way they love to be free by wearing their shorts Tees slippers and sun glasses.I can see there's going to be a huge problem.Yes a dress code should be put in place, but not to the extent where you have to dress like you are going on an interview or go to church.That's why the tourism are in trouble.I am goin to show my boss this article and the them choose for themselves what they want do.If they want to go to St Lucia or Jamaica or one of the other Islands.Barbados is a very hot place, and it is very sad to see this kind of thing going on back there.STOP THE NONSENSE BEFORE WE START LOSING OUR TOURISM
DRESS CODE : 10/9/2009
WHAT NEXT?LONG DRESSES WITH LONG SLEEVES ,HIGH NECKS,STOCKINGS,COURTSHOES AND GLOVES TO OBTAIN DOCUMENTS? FOCUS SHOULD BE MADE ON THE STAFF HOW TO ADDRESS PEOPLE,BE COURTIOUS AND SPEAK IN A PROPER MANNER.BARBADOS IS A HOT CLIMATE.THE WOMEN IN THIS PHOTO LOOKS CLEAN AND TIDY TO ME.
Dress code : 10/9/2009
I often get a good laugh when I see attorneys walking through the "hot broiling sun" in Coleridge Street, all bedecked in three piece suits. I remember teaching overseas and telling my class about how the speaker of teh house still wear a wig andshowing them a picture of it. Talk about laughter and ridicule in the class room? those 14 yr olds had a grand time laughing at us. And that was almost 30 years ago. And now this??? What is wrong with a sleeveless shirt? From what I read the code said straps, so how does that translate to sleeveless top? Stuuuuuuuupse
Junk : 10/9/2009
This is the problem with Barbados. The public servants are no longer servants of the public but of themselves, they create their little tribal areas with whatsoever rules they want. What happens to this NISE ? Is this Saudi Arabia or Indonesia ? From where I sit I can only hold my head in shame when i see nonsense like this happening. #37 on that UN Index. With stuff like this going on it should be last. Where can I find a lawyer to challenge this crap ?
Dress Code : 10/9/2009
At least they don't require you to put on fresh underwear, like they did with the fish vendors a couple of years ago. So men can get in with anything but earrings or shorts. Bajan's why is that you don't you respect your women? What a sad sad little country you live in!
Dress Code! : 10/9/2009
I cannot understand how people living in Barbados do not know of this ,I live in overseas and I knew of this about a year ago,some of them need to pay more attention to what is going on in their country. Maybe they should be just as strict with the workers in the Registry and make sure that they are spelling the names and also putting correct information on the certificates. I applied there for a certificate for my son and when I received it ,I told the clerk that the spelling of the father's name was incorrect,and he told me that that is the way it was spelled in the book. my problem was I did not have an old copy with me. Anyway when I check the old copy the spelling is incorrect so I now have to go there on my return to the Island ,with the old certificate . The thing is I might have to pay again for a mistake that was not mine in the first place. Concern Bajan!
Dress Stress : 10/9/2009
I see no issue with the way these ladies are dressed..they are not going into a court of law. Barbados is a warm country...I reside in Ma,USA and the dress code here is whatever, you don't get turned away, I guess over time this code crap will wear itself out and will be business as usual. Ian.
: 10/9/2009
Barbados the island in the sun under the commonwealth is acting like it has lost its common sense..If I showed up barefeet they would probably turn me away too..This is fundamental madness!!
: 10/8/2009
cheese gon bread i 'no choldren in B'dos dat went tuh school bare footed an' now dem gine tell people duh cant wear slippers tuh conduct bussiness at ah govt. office bajan in Toronto
Disgraceful : 10/8/2009
Why are we wasting time on a persons dress code. We are a tourist destination. I suggest this is a ridiculous situation. I personally have been offended by this a a Barbadian residing overseas and going to the registry to collect a certificate. I do believe that my human rights were infringed when I was asked by a security guard to remove my diamond stud earring. What could be the rationale behind this I would love to know? I certainly hope that this situation is addressed soonest. I have made a check and realize that our fair country don't have a Human Rights Act thus creating the climate for such actions to be deemed lawful.
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
Just as a point. Do you watch foreign TV? I was always told that clothes does nost make the man/woman. It is hot in Barbados and people want to be cool and comfortable. You should be stopping people, who wear ties and woolen jackets. Jim Babb
Rubbish : 10/8/2009
Steeuupse!!!! You mean to tell me I have to now dress up to go to the registrar???? Would you also like me to dress up to pay Land Tax???? What is the difference???? I travel home at least once a month. It would appear, that each visit, there is some other little thing the government tries to implement to keep up with international(primarily American) customs with little or no understanding of the reasoning behind why things are done the way they are. If you must copy others copy correct! We do not dress up to go to court here!!! Infact, I live in DC and regularly go to government offices and museums here, no such ridiculous dress code exists!!! You would be lucky to find somebody wearing that much in the middle of summer! Don't be sooooo Titanic!! Let me tell wunna something, don't depart too far from island culture. Barbados is laid back, and should remain as such. Remember, Follow Pattern Kill A Man.
Law Abiding : 10/8/2009
You should be aware that the rules of the court are the rules of the court. It is amazing that we pick and choose what we want to follow, but when it comes to anything outside of what we don't want to comply with, we talk junk. Those Bajan American and Bajan Canadian people comply with the laws where they live. We are telling our children that it is alright to pick and choose what we want to do. The children are listening and watching us.
Scantily Clad a Security Threat? : 10/8/2009
This is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous! This is the stuff our legal minds concoct? Disgusting! If someone is not indecently attired, in the sense that they can be charged for breaking the law, they should not be refused admittance to this building. The people enforcing this rule have a misguided sense of self-importance! The court is usually some place persons are forced to interact with because politicians with self-sustaining legal interest passed legislation making it so. Instead, management within the legal system can try paying attention to the following: 1) Revising the code of ethics for the legal fraternity - if there is one. 2) Stop or otherwise discourage client payouts from settlements etc. through lawyers' bank accounts, this in itself presents opportunities for temptation.
dress code : 10/8/2009
STUFF and Nonsense.What next? Communisim.
dresscode : 10/8/2009
Just as I was being to appreciate barbados way of thinking .It seems as if we have gone back to the dark ages.Just let the people collect their documents.The other crap is "Hog Wash"
Heat Stroke : 10/8/2009
Well this is foolishness what was wrong with their dress code . Bim is very hot there bellies and buttocks were not exposed. Are there required to dress in three piece suit and church clothes ? Since we are requiring dress code lets start dressing out or police force in equipment for the job, such as weapons on their hits, bullet proof vest for their chest, and up to date training for their survival. That the dress code that's required and need focusing on in our Bajan heat.
: 10/8/2009
I find it amazing that the critics of colonialism are the loudest proponents of copying north american standards or utter lack thereof.
Dress code 10/8/2009 : 10/8/2009
To put a Dress code in place for Adults is a good idea. It may help them to dress their Children properly. To those people who blame our colonial past for the dress code, Barbados will have a difficult tast gettihg rid of its colonial past. you see, we still have the Language. B.C>
: 10/8/2009
First of all this is to the person who call themself BAJAN IN BIM. This stupid comment you made "Bajans in the USA and canada need not comment on the politics on our island" show the mentality of most Barbadians still living there. Somehow you seem to forget that we are still Bajans and we have just as much right as you do. There are white English, Canadians, Germans living there and consider themselves Bajans. Are they allowed to comment on the politics of the island? Pay attention. Next, most of you seem to forget there were times when we only had 1 shirt and 1 pants and had to wash it out every night to go to school and work. The ladies in this picture were clean and fully dressed and should be allowed to conduct their business. I'm sure if the clerks are efficient it should only take them 10 minutes tops to be in and out with their documents in hand. Focus should be on good customer skills. Bajan in NJ
DRESS CODE - HA HA!! : 10/8/2009
Worring about how people dress coming into these building? You need to do something about the service we get when we come there to do our business. They should try putting a smile on their faces, politeness and working at a faster pace. The time you have to wait in some of these Government offices you need to be dressed to keep yourself cool because you could be there for a minute to an hour. I see nothing wrong with the way these ladies are dressed, their bodies are covered in a manner that it is of no embrassment to themselves or anyone else. Bermudian/Bajan
RULES SRE RULES : 10/8/2009
We must remember that standards in just about every sphere of human endeavor have steadily gone south in the last decade or two. What was not acceptable years ago gets a passing grade nowadays. We see this in schools, sports, entertainment, public behavior, dress and the like. It's as if anything goes. The culture invites the masses to do their own thing whatever it is, in the name of freedom. If a Black person stands up for decency, integrity, excellence, high standards, speaking standard English when the situation warrants it, etc., he or she is riduculed, accused of trying to be White, colonial-minded and what not. Look, the people who run the new Supreme Court Complex have a right to set the rules which govern use of the building. If people object to any or all of them, then they should refrain from going there. And if you have to do business there, play by the rules. Grow up and cease the whining (perhaps we should throw a Whine & Cheese party for you!). Betcha if you were invited by the Obamas to visit the White House, you'd try to look your best. Why? Out of respect for them, the building, atmosphere and occasion, right?. Then why can't you do the same for an institution located in your own country, Bajans? Nobody is telling all the male objectors to wear a three-piece suit and tie or a skirt suit, if you're a woman. Just carry yourself with dignity and therefore in a presentable manner. Haven't you looked presentable in the heat in the past? Well said RULES,4BPCE,PROUD BAJAN,PROUD TO BE FEMALE,BAJAN IN BIM,RESPECT FOR RULES,BAJAN IN CAYMAN,BAJAN, and TRUE BAJE.
: 10/8/2009
Instead of them worrying about the failing education system and the amount of thiefing in government, they worrying about people wearing sandles and t-shirts..Soviet Barbados or Taliban Barbados??
Hmmmm : 10/8/2009
Time will tell if TOURISTS are allowed to entire the building more scantily clad than the nationals lol. I agree there should be a code of dress for government buildings though. Especially one that cost the tax payers an arm and a leg. You should dress appropriately to take in what your hard earn dollars built :o)
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
Bajans need to follow instructions and stop minding what other people does. As stated it says no blouses and dresses with straps, no back out or belly out, mini skirts, shorts, slippers or curlers, when conducting business whether it be a birth certificate or etc you should always dress appropriately.
protect the building : 10/8/2009
If a dress code is required then all must abide by it, a proper maintenance program of this building will enable the building be kept in good order. the building looks good in/out but confused when people have to stand, not enough seating for people waiting to attend court.
Dress code : 10/8/2009
Nothing is wrong with how these two ladies are dressed in this picture. Barbados is a very hot island. These ladies are not dressed with the bellies out or strapped blouses or any other form. This is considered an island code. My husband was in barbados (who is WHITE) and conducted business with a certain person there with khaki shorts on and was told nothing by security, what is going on? Barbados government needs to get with the program. In the USA nothing is wrong with that dress code especially if it is summertime. You can go into the JFK building wearing slippers and dress like these ladies and nothing is wrong. People go to some government buildings dressed worst. But, to COURT NOW THAT'S a NO,NO and these ladies are not going to court. Shame on barbados for treating barbadians that way. For visitors you treat different that is not equal treatment. Shame, Shame on the government. VISITOR TO BARBADOS
My My how asinine!!! : 10/8/2009
This is unbelievable whoever made the rule should be taken to task. Mr Attorney General please intervene and stop this nonsense. If the public allows them to get away with it Bajans are nothing but hot air. I think they have crossed the line.
: 10/8/2009
Just imagine a new court building in Bimshire and you are not working there, why should anyone have to dress up to drop off or pick up documents. What nonsense! Soon I will be visiting and need a new Birth certificate so I have to bring my church clothes to get one. Is this the same country wishing and hoping that tourist will flock to its shores. May I also add that car rentals and hotels are too expensive that's why some of the other islands are doing better right now. BB
: 10/8/2009
i AGREE with this dress code, i'm a female and i find some female dress too loose and DONOT know when, where and how to dress. the same clothes they wear in town, they wear to church, fete/clubs, funerals, etc. i believe you should have appropriate clothing for different purposes. SEND THEM BACK HOME!!! like how the school children are done. also some adults need to dress their age and NOT their shoe size!!
dress code? : 10/8/2009
Miss utterly Ridiculous,The poorest person in Barbados has a dress and a pair of shoes to wear to town to do business or to go to church. This is the way we are and We in Barbados and will never allow ourselves to follow fashion any other Island's ways. Take us or leave us. Sorry! Baje
Sick and tired? : 10/8/2009
Good riddance if you don't wish to visit with us, then go ahead and visit with the other Islands. Proud Baje.
Dress cod? : 10/8/2009
Mr. KH What is that you wrote,that Barbados is behind TRINIDAD and JAMAICA? Which news paper do you read Sir? God forbid that we should be so unfortunate to follow their standards and habits. We wish them well any way, but do not wish for us to follow them or any one else. Read well my friend. KB
To RRRRR : 10/8/2009
You made me smile.I recall my grand mother often referred to some people as "new niggers" if they were fussing wearing new clothes or anything new. Maybe the authorities at this spanking new complex are behaving like "new niggers." LOL
Dress Stress Discrimination : 10/8/2009
This is discrimination against the poor/people who cant afford to buy clothes/foot wear for the courts. For a while I had one pair of blue slippers, no shoes. I didn't because I couldn't afford one. As a woman if I had to choose between buying a pair of shoes and put food on the table for my hungry children... I will choose to put food on the table. In my opinion, people should be able to wear what they have as long as it is clean and they are properly covered. The people that put the rules in place should start thinking "OUTSIDE THE BOX" and remove their rose colored lenses!
wait... : 10/8/2009
dis is da same buhbaddus dat does allow de white turist tuh come into Scotia bank dressed in a bikini, flip-flops & see-thru cover-up showing alla she white flesh? chupsssssse.
Less Dress : 10/8/2009
Question: Can I, as a tourist, walk down Broad Street, in my bikini? Even though I am not a citizen of Barbados, would not the sun be just as hot or hotter on my body and therefore shouldn't I be allowed to wear my bikini as I am not even going into a building far less a governmental building?
Becareful ! : 10/8/2009
Question,are these ladies violating any law on the books? While they is "dress code" for persons wishing to conduct business,does the employee have a dress code and how does this compare? I'm a bajan living in New York and when I visit home,it is difficult to find somewhere to go where you dress up.Whether it be church,funerals or weddings, the consensus is times have change.While I applaud the gesture we must understand the culture and values of Barbados has change;it may be debated whether it's for better or worse.We need not debate that Barbados is a "free" country and it citizens should be free to wear clothing of their choice.Alas if visitors are encourage to do so, why not a native? Barbados is very hot and while I share the view "there is a time and place for everything" we must be cautious in how set up rules and regulations.While we must be courteous while conducting business no arm of Goverment should be selective in putting signage if all are not,we cannot pick and choose.I see this as a civil rights issue.Be wary we don't create "animal farm" rules all over again.
DressCode : 10/8/2009
I respect your dress code but the earring part of it puzzle me that men cant wearhow does that effect the dres code CRAZZZZZZZZZZY.
DRESS CODE : 10/8/2009
What utter rubbish. Some lawyers go to Court inappropriately dressed, in sling back shoes, over-sized earrings,toe rings, and high heel slippers. My mother is a diabetic and she cannot wear shoes that will damage her feet. The Notice is posted under the Office of the Registrar of the Supreme Court. Is the Registrar of the Supreme Court telling me that my mother will be banned from entering the Registration Office to Conduct business as a citizen of Barbados because she is wearing a pair of sandals? All this security and the place is not even fenced. Any half crazed person can drive off the road , on to the property and do damage. Security my foot. On the day of the opening of assizes it was quite easy to enter that building with all the security and any one, even a "paro" in a lawyer's gown could have entered. I think the Registrar of the Supreme Court should concentrate on beefing up the services issued by the Registration Department. The next thing we will be hearing is that a booth is going to be set up, outside in the hot sun for those unwelcomed members of the public to collect Certificates and other documents which were requested by them. I want donnasealy@nationnews.com to know that that dress code was only enforced for persons with cases in the Magistrates Court or attending a case in the High Court. Everyone cannot wear uncomfortable shoes.
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
The reason these things happen is because too many backward Bajans support this nonsense without thinking.The important thing here is not how new and pretty the building is;it serves a simple function.To give documents from the relevant departments to those who need them.Nothing wrong with either of the women shown.Men wearing earrings,utter nonsense;what does that have to do with a dress code.I went into the temporary library in Bridgetown this year on several occasions carrying the same handbag.On my last visit before returning to Toronto the security guard told me I had to leave my bag with the female over on the side.Of course I told him it was nonsense and walked out.The only reason I did not take it further is because I was leaving soon after. How many people take up these stupid directives with their representatives and expect a sensible answer.Bajans have lost their common sense hence men sweat in hot churches on Sundays in suits,shirts and ties.
Dress code. : 10/8/2009
Once it's court, have to dress approriate. Now I know just in case about the code because I may be attending soon.
dress code : 10/8/2009
This is pure stupidness. Its real easy to enforce the rules against the general Public, just place a rude, unmannerly guard at the entrance. When it comes to your crooked investored, unqualified doctors, lax immigrations rules, chinese living on the job, jobs going to foreigners as your new investors bring in their own. Guards st opping the police from entering a white owned gated community, and it goes on, and on. We dont seem to have a heart for own. We treat our own as worthless, but look up to everyone else. God, have mercy on Barbados...
- : 10/8/2009
This is nonsense. Barbados is a hot country and people should be allowed to dress appropriately. Appropriate dress for me is not English/European attire. But this is more about a clonial mentality and foolish people holding on to so-called standards that are Eurocentric. The advise or feelings of the Law Lords at the Privy Council should be instructive to backward Caribbean authorities, We need to have confidence in our selves and our abilities. MENTAL SLAVERY is what we continue to embrace.
: 10/8/2009
A True Baje... I agree with you. Nothing to do with slavery but with common decency. Bruce
DRESS CODE : 10/8/2009
Let's see! Little Ian lost his innocent life at the hands of bullies. A new born baby is abandoned on the beach by its mother. Somehow, harassing people because they are not dressed in a way that "only Europeans" could appreciate seem so minor. I guess SMALL MINDS CAN ONLY FOCUS ON SMALL ISSUES. Wake up officials and see reality
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
I am a barbadian living in the USA and previously lived in Canada for over 35 years. I have never heard such folishness. The ladies in the Nation's photo seemed appropriately dressed to me. Barbados boasts temperatures year round of 77 degrees F. therefore one cannot expect these ladies who are just conducting regular business of applying for certificates, picking up etc to dress as if they were appearing in a judge's court. The dress code should be clearly indicated on their forms and displayed boldly in their offices for the public to see at least three months before any enforcement can be done. Since the public is not aware of a dress code, why did the security guard not use his discretion and just warn these folks and provide a handout with the appropriate dress code. This could be done for a period of time until folks get use to it, before any enforcement. Folks in Barbados, please continue to make me proud, dont revert back to slavery. This is a step backward. I HAVE BEEN IN BARBADOS AND SEEN HOW THE TOURIST DRESS. WILL THIS DRESS CODE INCLUDE THEM AS WELL?? hmmm
: 10/8/2009
I thought as Barbados was considered one of the most literate in the west Indies our thought process would have been more modern in our views. If a picture tells a thousand words the picture that appears before the article says that those ladies were fully and appropriately dress to conduct business. They were not going before a judge and scantily dress. This is colonialism to the hilt and sexism. We keep blaming the young on their dress code, remember we were once young and porbably dress the same or even worst. I guess Barbados is still behind in the times where there is no freedom of expression. Concern Bajan DB.
Nothing New : 10/8/2009
There were always rules in regards to how we should dress in order to go to school, church as well as to certain government departments including court and the registration department. Kudos to this government department for trying to return some decorum and respect for others to this country. There is a lot to be said for freedom of speech, but most of us take the time to put on something decent when we visit these places and it is also a sign of disrespect to us as well when others come dressed as above. Let them go home and return in decent attire. There is a time and place for everything. Slippers and cut off jeans belong in the house and some of us bypass that option. We once said with pride that Barbados was even more British than Britain.
Blame the poor Europeans for Our stupidity ! : 10/8/2009
We have freedom of speech but not to say waht we like when we like and to whom we like . We have free will but still cannot do as we please . We have freedom of association but still cannot assocaite with whom we wish to . Get the point!HEDS aint brain .It is amazing how people like to lead others astray but are making sure they are doing waht is correct .Reminds me of the story of the man who told his friend how he curse the boss stink .The fool went and curse the boss too but got fired .On enquiring he found out that the friend curse the boss behind his back .
Dress Stress : 10/8/2009
This rule is stupid. What is wrong with the way the ladies are dressed in the picture? The rules should be for the employees not for the customers picking up documents. The time and energy shoud be concentrated on customer service training for the majority of the rude employees dealing with the public in Barbados. Please give an explanation as to the reason for this dress code rule, so that the readers would understand why it is in effect.
Dress Code?? : 10/8/2009
Well, Well! This is the Barbados that I grew in. Ever so poor but decently dressed and respecting ourselves. what a disgust to watch the dress ing of the young people in this other country where I now live. This is a good ruling and I do hope that we do not lower our standards and make those ho have passed n to turn over in their graves. (A true Baje)
Dress Code? : 10/8/2009
Freedom of speech and freedom of expression not allowed? Government that is not by the people, of the people or for the people will not stand. Funny how slavery done but our minds are in chains... well it seems like total destruction is the only solution.
RIDICULOUS : 10/8/2009
I do not see anything wrong with how these people are dressed. We are getting too white-y-fied. What's next? Inability to speak dialect? We need another Gabby Song. This is our culture and we are supposed to be separate from the rest. Who made this them the almighty that they can tell what is appropriate dress? Slippers and sandals are our culture. Who says these people can afford the attire being required? Naked is a violation. Showing private parts is a violation. Dont see any of this happening here. The reason I love to come home on vacation is to see people at ease, relaxed, no stress. Love the ability to wear slippers and sandals and have my arms out and be free. Get a Grip you people in authority in Barbados. Get a Grip.
: 10/8/2009
There is a time and a place for everything.The rules are the rules and if you are conducting business you should be appropiately dress. When you go for a job interview you are appropiately dressed.What is the difference. Take your business somewhere else if you don't know how to dress. Bajan
Sick and Tired : 10/8/2009
At least have signs in place before you inforce rules of "Law". You really shouldnt be telling people what to wear in their ears though! Freedom of Dress within reason, speech etc. No wonder I dont want to return to Barbados. Too far in the well of colonialism and "igrance".
DRESS STRESS : 10/8/2009
Is this the same Barbados that have a Counsel on Richmond St in Toronto? I have done business in shorts, slippers, and earrings to boot.The staff even address me as SIR,smiled,exchanged small talk, wished me a good day, when leaving they even said thank you. All of this dressed in a way that will be impossible to get past the Guard in Barbados where they still treat you like @#$%$#. Dress code sure properly trained courteous staff will also be nice.
STILL A COLONY : 10/8/2009
After 300 years of servitude, serfage and British imperialism you are still truly "little England". ................Maybe you should bring back cork hats for policemen too............."the sun never sets on the British Empire"....................Balgobin7
Sick : 10/8/2009
This is why Barbados, is behind countries like the Bahamas, Jamaica, and even crime ridden Trinidad, when it comes to civil and human rights issues. Is there a dress code in the Constitution? No. Dress codes are no longer the norm in the workplace or when conducting personal business. Barbados, is far behind the rest of the world. Many countries has protected their citizen from dress code practices in the workplace. Employers and some municipalities in the Unites States, paid out billion of dollars to victims of dress codes discrimination. Barbados government can also be sued, but many Bajans, do not understand the 'words Civil' Rights. This is a Civil Rights issue, that needs to be address. No citizen should be discriminated against by the state because of race, sexual orientation, personal beliefs, religion, preference of dress or lifestyle. A state has the right to protect it citizens form discrimination of any kind and that includes personal dress choice.
laughable : 10/8/2009
as always we demand the wrong thing of the wrong people. yes the office needs to be respected but neither of the women in this picture are dressed inappropriately. show some common sense and reason. the problem with public officials and public office is that these people seem to forget the basic tenets of their position/s are to SERVE THE PUBLIC!!! not the other way around. every single public office is plagued with poor customer service and blatant disrespect for the people they are supposed to be serving but they can find the time to enforce this meaningless rule.
Nonsense at the highest!!!!!! : 10/8/2009
Positively i see nothing wrong with the dress code of the two ladies involve..Like many remarks i too totally agree,just to go to the registrar to pickup documentation, no need to dress up like king and queen dyals..Obviously going to the courts is totally a new perspective.. The folks in charge should travel to foreign countries to see what it's like,apart from that their are no sign warning about dress codes,so the authorities need to be proactive in dealing with the public,everyone should boycott the public section until a code be put in place.. Bajancanadian...
: 10/8/2009
"Barbadian authorities appear to be mentally loitering on the steps of the colonial office after closing time" - THIS IS SO TRUE. Talking about standards, the laywers, customer service reps and businesses have no standards!?! I can understand if the ladies were skimpilly dressed but they aren't. If we're talking about standards I think this should be across the board. Incidentally, when officials have to tell anyone anything, you can say it more politely because the way officials talk to people in a rough manner, normally sparks off some kind of conflict because they're rude. Be mindful you are dealing with your bros or sista - you don't have to pay to be polite, its free. You may clearly have to display rules if you want them followed after all this is the 21st century - some of us are conscious of whats going on.
: 10/8/2009
IMHO the ladies in the photo should not have been denied service. I remember going into a bank on Broad Steet a few years ago and the tellers and staff were dressed to a tee but service was horible. I felt like I was begging for my own money. Maybe the government could run some public service announcement to inform the public of dress codes. It also needs ensure workers are providing Bajans with the BEST customer service.
Dark Ages : 10/8/2009
The more things the more there remaim the same.Lets remember that there are lots of black colonist who still have a say in the runing of the affairs of our land.Wouldn't be supprise if next you have to show a stiff upper lip, no wonder Barbados remains the laughing stock of the caribbean.
Only In Barbados : 10/8/2009
Give me a break; the ladies in the picture are dress appropriately for hot Barbados; it's not like they're going into court where you would expect to be dress in a proper fashion; they're just there to pick up documents. I don't see anything wrong with their attire. I completely understand a dress code for the workers at the supreme court but for the public picking up documents is really stupid in my opinion. This dress code is really stupid and excessive. Only in Barbados
DRESS STRESS : 10/8/2009
Now we have the dress police,if you want to travel give up your fingerprints,no camouflage clothing, what next in this Draconian trend? is this the price we have to pay for progress?
Dress stress : 10/8/2009
Why are the authorities in Barbados abusing their citizens who atre just going about their lawful business???. Last week it was fingerprinting innocent persons traveling through the Airport, Now it is working class people going to the rigistry to collect their documents, This kind of oppression need to be stamped out now!! Unless a person pose a threat they should be left alone to go about their lawful business without let or hinder. The guards and other authorities should be looking for the criminals and enforce the law against them. Provide good friendly and speedy service to these people who are your customers who you should be serving not abusing. Is the new court building too nice for certain people to enter?? Iknow in Barbados this is the norm with Hotels and beaches they don't like to see the so-call under class around nice premises, this is one of the reasons we have so meny gated communities. Barbados stop this stupid classism and work with each other.
: 10/8/2009
It is time that all business places implement dress codes, because there are some persons in society who do not know that 'THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING'. Even some adults don't know that. The dress code problem is not so much with men as it is with women. Some women (young and old), go to transact business with 3/4s of their brest expose, micro-mini skirts and pants and dresses, etc. The time to stop this madness is now, because gone are the days when men had to emagine what some women have, since everything is expose. I HOPE THAT EVERY BUSINESS PLACE WOULD IMPLEMENT A DRESS CODE
Colonialism continues!!! : 10/8/2009
Are we so affected by colonialism that we have lost our ability to think clearly. This situation brings to mind an incident which occurred last year when we vacationed in Barbados. Our rental car was broken into at a south coast beach and our clothes were stolen. We immediately visited a nearby police station to report the incident and were greeted by a loud shout from a policeman "Not allowed. Get out of here and come back when you are dressed properly". This was repeated several times in the loudest and roughest manner. We were totally embarrassed and just left. We were never given a chance to speak or to explain why we were dressed in swim wear only. Let us not go overboard folk. Be civil, be reasonable, and treat others how you would like to be treated.
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
I really appreciate the fact that we are setting standards for people entering the courts to conduct business irregardless of whether it is to collect a document or attend court. It is high time that we set high standards for ourselves and maintain them. To the bajan living in Canada I can relate to what you are saying because I reside in Cayman and I am appalled at the dress code here that is in place. (There is none people enter the court and the buildings in what ever they wish) To Barbados I say keep the flag flying high maintain the high standards because I am sure that when people dress well they will beging to behave in the manner that they are dressed. If you know that you have to go into the court buildings dress appropriate don't dress for town and then realise that you have business at the court buildings. The guards were correct in turning them away.
Dress code : 10/8/2009
I do understand that dressing appropriately to do any business, however not everyone can afford to have clothes that are considered "a dress code". Any transaction probably takes about ten minutes so there is really no need to "dress up". Focus on fixing the hospital and not nonsense.
Dress Stress : 10/8/2009
poor planning on governments part they should have kept the the courts seperate all together, so essentially the working man/woman if he got an earing and she got on slippers are not welcome, better take a long hard look that is the majority of your voting public. Which begs the question do you have dress code rule for voting too? No didnt think so...
Time to be orderly : 10/8/2009
It is time people respect the institutions they are visiting. I totally agree with the rules. I also say no one should have to tell adults how to dress. The courts/registration is one of the three arms of government, if not the highest and people ought to show proper regard for the office, irregardless of whether they are there to collect a piece of paper. When you leave for town and intend to visit the courts of justice, simply dress appropriately. The disrespect for proper dress is also apparent in church where we see strap dresses and breasts pushed up in the air. Don't get me started on dress down Fridays at some offices where one can see people in jeans and strap blouses. Lose cotton and linen shirts keep you cooler and are far more attractive.
Dress stress : 10/8/2009
What this security guard should be looking for is persons carrying bombs and any kind of weapons into this facility. Barbados is a tropical Island and extremely hot by 10:00am, why should the authorities be so concerned with the way their customers dress, it is their behaviour that they should be concern with. I see lawyers who supposed to be learned men and women dressed in all black and wearing 16th century whitemen wigs parading around Bridgetown and the Courts in ninety degreeds heat just to conform the the old colonial ways. This sort of attire is not for tropical people. I know we are still shackeled by our colonial pass and this dress code is one symbol of it. I remembered Frank walcott and Philip Greaves, these men were not incumbered by the dress code, shirt jacks were their attire. In Barbados we have a lot of great designers. Could some one please design some proper tropical attire for those Barbadian still tied to the apron string of the colonial masters.
Dress : 10/8/2009
Do people have to wear there Sunday best now to apply for a certificate. What is wrong with the people that is running the Department,what a bunch of Idiots. Bajan
Emancipate yourselves... : 10/8/2009
This has got to be THE MOST nonsensical story I have seen in the nationnews...and I have held my tongue on soooo many! Wake up, people, it is Barbados, average temperature 28 degrees celcius. No AC in public places and you upset because people wear SLIPPERS. Dang, you people should be glad they are wearing shoes for Pete's sake! Don't you think it is time we emancipated ourselves from the archaic way of thinking? Or perhaps we should go back to colonial days when everything was covered up?
Learn to dress properly women . : 10/8/2009
Here we go again !We lambaste the young people for their behaviour and the adults are no better . RULES ARE RULES . lIKE THEM OR NOT .It is time we start following them .i have always heard that PERSONS persons not supposed to be in the court yard dressed as they please . So what now! Some persons are not supposed to go to work with arm hole so what ! It appears that some people in Barbados does not want to be governed by law or rules .It appears that when we hear about INDEPENDENCE it means that after 1966 as a nation we do as we like, when we like, how we like and no one says nothing . Then the idle talk goes back to the colonialism mumbo jumbo .That is our past we cannot deny it but we are also looking to the future . However in going to the future we do not forget our past but there are things we can borrow from it . This lady in the photo may be going to collect a document or whatever but look like she is going to the village shop or as some people say going to make a message. There is a time and place for EVERYTHING . I am sure that you will not go to a funeral with your pajamas and claim you are too grieved to dress properly . You do not go in the fete with the clothes you wear home all the time .No you make sure even if the children go without petty fees that you have the latest . Why is it hard for us to abide by simple rules . Stop blaming the tropics . Are you going to wear a tweed blaser ,collar and tie with knee highs ? I DOUBT . We need to stop mimicing the US and other countries and try to be a shining example of a nation . Will a nice cottton top and a simle skirt or slacks kill you ? Can the men not go without the bling and the earrings for under an hour ? Give me a break ! We make every excuse for our insolence and hate of authority.It often boils down to the white man .(EUROPEANS AND SLAVERY .Oh Robert "Bob "Marley they have not gotten it in their heads .Emancipate YOURSELF from mental slavery none but OURSELVES can free our minds . It is a new building so what ! Be smart dress in between and you will never go wrong .Not too casual and not too formal .
: 10/8/2009
wait these people that are saying that we should obey the dress code,don't think and cant think, next they will want to see what our beautiful women wear under they closes before they aer allowed to enter the court it self,i wonder what those learned people think about when they see our women on the road going about there every day business.....the person that said proud to be a woman get your self transported to Victorian England where i am sure you would be happy ,they would be glad to teach a black woman where to live and how to dress
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
This is utter nonsense. There is absolutely nothing inappropriate with the way those ladies are clad. I was on the island in August and went to get a birth certificate dressed exactly like they are, and had no problem. Barbados was running in the high 80's when I was there. We are still tropical, are we not? Get with it law makers. Burn these archaic laws. Ego--Ottawa.
: 10/8/2009
PLEEEEEASE!!!! Even Michelle Obama goes sleeveless to official functions with her husband none other than...THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Get Real : 10/8/2009
Do we really have to tell people no curlers? That's funny. All jokes aside perhaps a second look should be had at the wearing of sleeveless shirts and sandals, both of which are very climate appropriate.
Colonialism Is Alive : 10/8/2009
Colonialism is alive and well in Barbados. Trying to make honest, law-abiding citizens whose labour and taxes built institutions feel that they are not welcome is snobbish, discrimatory and immature. It's not a building only for lawyers. It's for ALL Barbadians. There's no place for such backwardness and colonialism in 21C Barbados I say.
Dress for success : 10/8/2009
Just think how high our standards are. The wife of the President of the Great USA would not be allowed in our courtyard in the sleeveless dresses and gowns that have become her "signature" wear. Prehaps someone should start a business collecting documents for people who are inappropriately dressed. Charge $5 per document.
GROW UP : 10/8/2009
Men cannot wear shorts? Barbados is a hot country and shorts are comfortable, appropiate shorts should be encouraged even in the work place Are the white Englishmen still dictating how we dress? I guess not since I see them on visits walking around in shorts and no shirts or shirts unbutton Bajan in Toronto
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
This behavior is one you find with a totalitarian society or in a dictator run country and should not be tolerated in Barbados. it is time the people stand up to the government and say enough is enough. These people own the country and not the govenment who is there to serve the people. The dress is appropiate as long as there is no part of what is considered private areas are showing. the arms are not private neither are the feet.
Utterly Ridiculous!! : 10/8/2009
What if a person's economic means simply does not allow them to own a court appropriate manner of clothing? This dress code is too harsh and unrealistic for many to adopt. More importantly, not everyone enjoys wearing a suit and tie or heavy cotton dress or business attire in an 86 degree farenheit climate. It's a bit too much!!
PLEASE! : 10/8/2009
This has nothing to do with dressing with pride as stated in one of the statements. If your body is properly covered if wearing slippers or not you should be able to go to the court yard and pick up your paper work.You are not going before the Judge this is different. There is no sign posted.I visited Barbados last year ans went to the registration dept to pick uf a birth cert wearing shorts to the knee and a sleeveless shirt and was told at the guard station "man whey you tink you going ? you can come hey like dat."First ,post a sign let this be known and speak to and treat people like you want to be treated.this behaviour starts at the Airport.post a sign and let people know.We are simply not a dumb society.While I was being talked to like this 3 white barely dressed tourist we allowed in to "ask a question" Come on Barbados!
DRESS CODE : 10/8/2009
The law courts of Barbados or the registry are no different from that of the embassy of USA, so why can we respect their rules and regulations and not that of the government of Barbados, don't they deserve the same respect. People in barbados have lost they way and they sometimes need a rude awakening. I am all for the dress code and it should be enforced at all times. Bajans in the USA and canada need not comment on the politics on our island.
Let's be Reasonable : 10/8/2009
I agree that there should be some type of dress code in all public departments, BUT these codes should not be excessive. In setting these codes, the authorities should remember that Barbados is STILL a tropical country, and people will want to be comfortably dressed for the humidity. Authorities should also remember that not everyone is accustomed to being clothed how they are (with tie or dress shirt.) Also, it may be unreasonable to ask persons who have other business in town (supermarket shopping, hairdresser, etc) along with their business in the new building, to dress 'out of character.' Frankly, I see nothing wrong with the way the two persons in the photo are dressed. I see no over-exposure of skin, or nothing which would suggest lewdness. I think this code should ensure the sanctity of the building is maintained, without necessasarily inconveniencing persons who are dressed decently.
DRESS CODE???? : 10/8/2009
It just worries me that in Barbados you are not allowed to collect papers in the court yard if you wear a sleeveless blouse or slippers.This dress code is very stupid. If you have a court date or going inside the courts you should be properly dressed, but just going to the registration department is simply stupid.PUT THAT ENERGY INTO REAL PROBLEMS ON THE ISLAND BARBADOS and to top it all off the so called "guard" at the gate is nasty and rude.
: 10/8/2009
It is about time that women learn how to dress appropriately when transacting business. No wonder our younger generation dresses inappropriately, even for school and college. I support this action! Women, dress with pride and respect at all times!
dress : 10/8/2009
I can understand if you were making an appearance in cout but going to collect a birth certificate and being turned back???????This is an infringement on people's personal rights. Tis is utterly rediculous .
Backward!! : 10/8/2009
I have never heard anything so backward in my entire life!!! Whoever came up with this rule needs to be held to account. Why don't they concentrate on delivering a high quality service to Barbadians instead of trying to bully us into conforming to antequated ideals!!!!!
: 10/8/2009
only in Barbados!
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
I am all for improving standards, which I think have slipped badly in the last decade or two, but we must be mindful that we live in a tropical country and make some allowances for this. I have no problems with any of the requirements except the no sandals and the no body piercings for men. Sandals are not the same as slippers and are entirely appropriate wear for a tropical country. Whether you like men in earrings or not it is discriminatory to suggest that a man is not free to wear jewelry that a woman can wear. It would be like saying that a woman would not be allowed if she were wearing a pants suit.
: 10/8/2009
Gimme a break! the only place that could happen is barbados.
: 10/8/2009
How ARCHAIC!!!!! Talk about dark ages. What does armholes/earrings etc. have to do with a persons conduct? These people are not going into the Supreme Court...they are going to collect documents which they are entitled to. Get with the program, will ya!!!
dress code : 10/8/2009
wow are u kidding me.a dress code for workers yes but give me a break is this barbados a free country or north korea
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
People must learn to dress appropriately, there is a time and place for everything. There needs to be a dress code in some office as well, its ridiculous the way some people dress for work. Proud Bajan
Dressing for Business : 10/8/2009
I agree completly with the dress codes. We need to start realising that there are certain clothing for certain places. Just because it's hot outside doesn't mean that we shouldn't respect the places we need to go to do business. Women especially need to start paying attention to our way of dressing ourselves as well as our hygiene.
DRESS STRESS : 10/8/2009
THE LADIES IN THE PICTURE SEEM APPROPRIATELY DRESSED.BARBADIAN AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE LOOKING AT CRIME AND OTHER ISSUES WHICH EFFECT THE LIVES OF POOR BARBADIANS AND STOP BEING SUCH "POOR GREAT" FOOLS. GET OUT OF THE DARK AGES.I LIVE IN CANADA AND I WEAR SANDALS TO COURT AND I HAVE ALSO SEEN MINI SKIRTS.YOU HAVE TEMPERATURES OF 60 DEGREES EVERYDAY.
hmm : 10/8/2009
According to the rules published here, I don't see anything wrong with the woman on the right. I would hardly consider that a mini skirt. Does anyone find that some guard go on a POWER trip?
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
This is foolishness. When will these institutions learn that they are here to serve the people. Perhaps, in a courtroom the dress code is appropriate to maintain the dignity of the court -if there is any left. But that is another mtter. However, ti collect documents,certificates, etc is stretching it too far. Teh CJ opens court with a lot of talk about speeding up justic, etc and here I was thinking there may be hope. All this dress code thing is doing is further alienating the common people from an important institution. And we wonder why the youth are becoming more and more cynical. Will someone in touch with reality please come forward?
Dress codes : 10/8/2009
These rules were implimaented before the move the BIG move signs were up in the all Registries and Courts from early last year Bajans have to learn how to follow Rules.
Dress code : 10/8/2009
I can understand people being "appropriately" dressed because these days so many "get carried away" and can appear close to vulgar, but then againwho is to decide? A sleeveless dress, get real you live in the tropics, sometimes the sun is so hot I am surprised you want to wear any dress. Hey I am not in charge and would never be caught because I am a conservative dresser. Earrings, wow, what next?
What dress code. : 10/8/2009
I knew it, I knew it. A new court building and the foolishness starts. I know some folks dress unappropriate for certain occasions, but telling a man he can not wear earrings, what they term as slippers? you can not wear shorts or short pants,sleevesless blouses. In Barbados where the temperature is close to the 90`s, what they want you wear,over- coats. When there are issues in Barbados, whether it a business or something like this, the person is never there to ask a question If they not there or out of the Island then things come to a standstill. Talking about defacing the building well hire some people and let them stand outside the building with placards. As time goes by we will see how this new thing will look like. I have been visiting Barbados for many years and I know that after these buildings are handover, they are net maintained,take a look at the outside of the Govermemt buildings. HC
Dress Stress : 10/8/2009
I see no problem with the dress code. I know outside is hot, but if I am going to such a magnificent building, I would dress in a long pants and a shirt with sleeves. The slipper issue may be more of a concern, since most women who are not in business attire would likely wear some type of push in shoe, in slipper form. You are conducting business in a business like environment and should dress to suit. You are not on a picnic. Bajans need to dress to suit. Going to court requires proper dress as well, so what's the problem? A proper sign however will get the message across. Is there a website? That would help as well, not only for dress regulations but any other regulations needed to conduct business there. Dress to Impress
Too far East is ......!! : 10/8/2009
Tell me you are kidding! I have got to get all dressed up to collect a document! This is as archaic as insisting that legal documents be printed on parchment paper only. I understand the need to stamp out vulgarity in dress but what is wrong with an earring or a nice sleeveless dress or blouse? A nice pair of leather samdals can look quite classy, just as a pair of Bermuda length shorts. Lets not go overboard folk, after all, we do live in a very warm climate.
Dress code : 10/8/2009
Total foolishness. Inappropriate dress as far as I am concerned for such business is no footwear or shirtless. They are there to get documents not for a court hearing. Are there more pressing concerns. Like getting customers in and out in a decent amount of time? Pick your battles wisely.
Dress Code : 10/8/2009
I thought we were supposed to break away from Privy Council, not uphold Colonialism? The photo shows women not badly dressed IMHO! It is time for Barbados to get of standards from 19th Century UK
: 10/8/2009
Was a concerted attempt ever made to make this information available to the general public? I fully understand the need for people to be dressed appropriately. However, these people are not going into Court to appear before a judge, they are conducting routine business. They have not come to spend all day at this office. Let the people conduct their business and let them go. When it comes to dealing with our people, Barbadian authorities appear to be mentally loitering on the steps of the colonial office after closing time.
new building : 10/8/2009
Understand people its the new building syndrome in effect. What you could have got away with in the old building will not be tolerated in this new building
Colonial Mentality : 10/8/2009
It is interesting to note that similar rules were applied at HMP Glendairy and now at HMP Dodds....Go figure
DECENCY : 10/8/2009
I agree that the dress code should be enforced in the judicial and appropriate government buildings. However, it appears that there are fair and valid questions relating to health related circumstances which may prevent someone from unintentionally complying with the dress code and as such should be addressed. Afterall, "decency" goes both ways.
foolishness : 10/8/2009
BARBADOS NEEDS TO GET ITS ACTS TOGETHER,ALL THIS IS NONSENSE, DRESS CODE ENFORCED TO PICK UP DOCUMENTS,WHY DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN TO SPELL PEOPLE'S NAME CORRECTLY, INSTAD OF REINFORCING DRESS CODE, THEY KEEP ON PUTTING PEOPLE THROUGH UNNECESSARY HELL.
: 10/8/2009
NOBODY CAN TELL ME HOW TO DRESS: Barbados is a Tropical country and people in Barbados should not dress like they dress in cold cold cold England. There is a reason why people in England dress in JACKET AND tie, BOOTS , SCARVES ETC .We should not have to wear jacket and ties on BARBADOS. ---MENTAL SLAVERY IS WHAT IT IS. WE NEED A NATIONAL DRESS THAT REFLECTS THE CARIBBEAN.
DRESS STRESS : 10/8/2009
If those in authority want their rules followed they should be more open with what those rules are. It is not easy to follow rules because they are not voiced or displayed clearly - other countries have the Freedom of Information Act where you can obtain information on yourself from certain companies. In Barbados people want to keep information that would assist the client to follow rules and regulations to themselves and then wonder why things go wrong. Why do we have to play the cat and mouse game of I'm holding all the cards and can play around with you. If we're following a lot of the Westernized rules and regulations - there's are always displayed or written down in processes so you can follow the process and avoid situations like these.
GIVE ME A BREAK : 10/8/2009
Who came up with these rules? Why is it inappropriate for a woman to wear a sleeveless shirt? There is nothing inappropriate about the clothing worn by the women shown in the photo. And, what is wrong with a man wearing an earring? Realy, Gimme a break!!!
dress code : 10/8/2009
I thought that colonialism was over but it seams that it is well and living in Barbados the colonist had a way of keeping the slaves in check and i guest that they have found a way in keeping it surviving,these so called minds of wisdom has got brains no larger than a grain of sand, there is no where in this world that this sort of nonsense is tolerated but only in countries where the colonist previously ruled ,it was only a few days ago that the privy council said that the Caribbean should go there own way, and instead of dispensing justice here there are talking about dress code,these people need to wake up,the Europeans created a form of dress that suited a cold country,Barbados is in the tropics and if allowed we would create our own dress code they don't need one handed down by they masters I AM A BAJAN AND I AM HOPPING MAD ABOUT THIS SITURATION the whites use to judge our features by they rule and it went some thing like this is your nose strait is your hair strait is your skin white,if it was no to all the above then you had to sit at the back of the church,look tell Attorney General he better start thinking straight yah and all Oh THIS FOOLISHNESS NEED TO STOP
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