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THIS IS NOT A JUDGING MATTER : 11/28/2009
Now!Let's think outside the box. This is not about been judgemental stop pass off this situation on christians and everything else. I am surely certain when this young lady went into the service she know the rules and regulations. Think about what harm she has placed upon her follow peers. Well let's all thank God nothing ever happpened. Of course she can be forgiven by pardon for the courts but should she be able to keep her job? Definitely NOT. Her behaviour is not to be allowed this is saying to other officers it is ok, this would lead to corruption not saying there might not be some at this time but this behavior if encourage will promote it. Just think about the favourtism,what if there was an incident within those walls who would she defend her peers or her lover? One must always look at the bigger picture. We all make decisions in our lives where there are consequences which we have to live with this does not mean they are acceptable. In my opinion this is one. I say Ms.Shanelle go out and seek another profession. love should be always embrassed but there is usually a price to be paid.

To answer everyone's question on what he was in prison for : 11/28/2009
Vaughn was sent to prison for shooting at well known drug lord "Bounty" in the ivy while he ran through an old lady's house.
He did his time so just shut to hell up and let the couple live their lives in peace and harmony.

WARDER IN A KNOT : 11/28/2009
A prison officer shall not knowingly communicate or associate with an ex-prisoner, or with the friends and relatives of a prisoner or ex-prisoner except with the permission of the officer-in-charge.
that is the rule fullstop

Warder in a KNOT : 11/28/2009
In your work place,
YOU MUST OBEY THE RULES.

: 11/27/2009
Live and let live, he has served his time for his crimes, that was then this is now. Everybody deserves a second chance, the fact that he has found a woman who loves him regardless of his past is a credit to both of them, I sincerely hope that they have a wonderful married life toghter.

Prison officer jailed : 11/27/2009
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1227529/Prison-officer-Kelly-Anne-McDade-baby-inmate-jailed-30-months.html

Warder in a Knot : 11/27/2009
Rules are made to be obeyed and not broken. This warder has compromised the safety of our prison system and she should not be allowed to go unpunished. This same situation which has created this 'love affair' could have easily retorted a prison disaster.
Therefore, let us set all emotions aside and treat this situation the way it should be.

Warder in a Knot : 11/27/2009
The long and short of this situation is that Ms.Ellis works in a prison; a place where adults who broke the law are housed apart from society.When she accepted the position she read those rules and understood that inmate and prison officer are not to be to involved romantically.I am pretty sure that those rules were explained verbally as well.Somehow, her brain took vacation and left her heart in charge.Hence, wedded bliss to her inmate.People do reform and need opportunities to do so but this is not so much about the ex-inmate, it is about the officer a security person placing so much snd others at risk.She should have resigned when she realise that there was going to be more in the mortar beside the pestle.

: 11/27/2009
As I understand this story this prison warden and ex prisoner met and married 2 years after this man was release from prison. Basically if they are rules nd regulations about wardens and prisoners then all staff should be told and given the correct information about this. Also if wardens are not alowed to marry or associate with ex prisoners this should also be set out in understadable English and given to all staff then they will be no confusion so that in the future staff will know if they need to resign or what ever steps they need to take in having appropiate relationships with ex-prisoners. And all those judgemental comments from so call christians no wonder some people do not to to church having to mix with such hypocrites put you off christianity sometimes.

The British way : 11/26/2009
This lady is lucky that she is not in the service of HM Prisons, United Kingdom.http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1227529/Prison-officer-Kelly-Anne-McDade-baby-inmate-jailed-30-months.html

CHOICES : 11/26/2009
IAM 59 YEARS OLD,I AM YET TO MEET A TRUE BARBADIAN CHRISTIAN.THEY ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THAT LITTLE ROCK ,WHO ARE FULL OF HATRED AND JEALOUSY FOR THEIR FELLOW-MAN.ESPECIALLY IF THAT PERSON IS BLACK, AND ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT JESUS AND GOD WHAT HYPOCRITES!THESE PEOPLE LOVE EACH OTHER,THERE IS NO CRIME IN THAT.WHEN I GREW UP IN B´DOS HALF THE PRIESTS WERE SEXUALLY ABUSING YOUNG GIRLS,THERE IS NO OUTCRY ABOUT THAT, AND I WOULD´NT BE SURPRISE IF THAT IS STILL HAPPENING.EVERYONE DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE IN LIFE , NONE OF YOU WRITING THIS HOGWASH ARE PERFECT

warder/warden : 11/25/2009
Thanks to the person who clarified the words for me. I was mistaken. When I checked the dictionary, I found that the two words are interchangeable. Warder is just not a commonly used word any longer.Should hasve done my homework.

: 11/25/2009
Every other month or week there seems to be a different story which raises discussion first it was ZR vans, then it was flogging in schools then the man who claimed that he walked out the QEH morgue and now this ..what will it be next..martians landing at Kensington Oval?

: 11/24/2009
Shonelle if the prison service get rid of you in the name of upholding their mad laws, don't worry I'm sure you will find employment elsewhere, at least you sound like an honourable woamn in that you can see beyond someones (your husbands past) good luck to you both, may you both be happy always

WARDER & WARDEN CLARIFIED : 11/24/2009

WARDEN is defined as the " Chief administrative officer in charge of a prison"
However another definition of Warden is "a person charged with the care or custody of persons, animals or things".
WARDER - Is defined as a prison guard OR a guard, porter or watchman of a gate or tower.
Hence from the above one can see why both words are used interchanging to refer to the same thing.

What would Jesus do or say on this one. : 11/24/2009
I heard the ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID we have to give a person person that serve his time a chance to get back inter society.So what are we the public say now? We sould go back to the Bible and ask ourselves what would Jesus have done when he was on earth.Remember the woman that was brought before Jesus by other sinners to be stoned because she was caught in addultery? She was caught, the others that brought her was sinning also but they were'nt caught.But My Jesus was smart.Look what Jesus did.He stooped down and began to write something in the ground for them all to see.He who is without sin cast the first stone.Not one of them could'nt cast a stone because they knew they were sinning also. We as a people are always quick to judge others,
but we should examine ourselves first.I God should come now and take an inventory of our lives what would he see.Man looks at what they could see with the natural eye, but God looks with the spiritual eye.And he looks at the heart, some that man cannot see with the natural eye.People never let you forget what you have done in the past or where you came from.I am speaking from experience.But this is a little something i'm going to leave you all with."DON'T TELL WHO OR WHAT I USED TO BE
TELL ME WHO I AM TODAY" We all have something
that we are ashame of, but we are so quick to judge and condemn.If these two have found love give them a chance to prove themselves.
Let us take care of or own skeletons that are in our closets.And they are some skeletons in our closets.Helloooooooo!!!!!!!
Bajan living in NY.

Warder in knot : 11/24/2009
I say do not resign, let them prove that you did or is doing something wrong. People please this is 2009. "Why does love always have to be a battlefield". Why is this always news? What about the suspect that killed that young girl in St. Peter and had her hidden for 7 months, I would love to see what happen to him on his day in court, now to me thats news.

Leff Dem lone : 11/24/2009
What God has put together , let no man put assunder.

Daughter of the Hearted warden : 11/24/2009
I totally agree with you words . He have a lot of steriotype people in the Caribbean and will never change until we get exposure in international countries .
My regards to you granfather ,

War der love : 11/23/2009
Love is blind . Blind to laws ,rules , just blind . So they say . This is not about love .Did this woman not know of that rule ? i realize that there are some female prison officers that seem to be low on the moral scale and love the attention That the uniform brings .So much so you see them in terminus in their uniforms and seemingly advertising .Sometimes carrying on in the worse ways . If that subsection of the law on fraternizing is correct i believe Mr.Stuart and Mr Nurse has a lot of work especially where females are concerned . This is a penal institution not penile Institution . How can you be overseeing criminals of every sort and sleeping with them .This is sleeping with the enemy or Dangerous liaisons . Has anyone studied the magnitude of danger that is being posed to the security of our island if this is allowed to continue on a grand scale . Gun runners ,drug mules and traffickers would continue doing their business from jail via these warders male or female .

warder? : 11/23/2009
The lady is not a warder, she was a warden.
What is a warder?

: 11/23/2009
High ranking prison officer, be up front considering that you feel able to comment on your collagues choice to marry a former inmate, state your name, so Shontelle knows who you are, as opposed to you no doubt smiling in her face and stabbing her in the back at the same time.
Don't sit in judgement of this woman, she fell in love, which we all want, and married, big deal, Mr Vaughan is a former inmate, he has served his time, and therefore he should be allowed to get on with the rest of his life with his new wife.
Be HAPPY Mr and Mrs Vaughan, may you enjoy a long and happy marriage!

Warder in a knot : 11/23/2009
Some of you are writing about vaughan using her to smuggle in things for his prisoner friends, like what? Toilet paper? Do any of you even know what crime he committed? I think some of you are getting far ahead of yourselves. I believe the real security breach will be that while everyone is focused on her (an obvious and open target)other warders who are not married to ex cons will be smuggling in things for their lovers in prison. Who would risk using a warder who is so publicly associated with an ex con to smuggle anything into the prison? If I were a prisoner she would be the last warder I would approach. Her new husband describe her as "unmannerly" when she was a warder. Does that sound like the kind of woman who would smuggle stuff in for her husband. Who better to keep an ex con in line than a prison warder. I wonder, would their be this fire storm if the warder were a man and the ex con a woman? Or would we all be singing a different tune?

Warder in a knot : 11/23/2009
Why would it be a security breach to have a relationship with an EX convict? I thought that once you had served your time you were once again a citizen of Barbados with all the rights and privilages due to a citizen of Barbados. It was once against the law to teach 'negroes' how to read. It was once against the law for a white person to marry a black person. Is it against the law for a Police officer to marry someone they once arrested or are they forbidden from associating with ex cons too? I ask this because my grandfather was a prison officer and he 'associated' with ex cons after they left jail. He assisted many of them in finding jobs and one of them used to make sure I got to and from primary school unmolested, even though by then he was a very old man. Some of them had meals at my grandfather's house when they fell on hard times. My grandfather once said, "these men have served their time but society will not give these men a chance to show the change we have seen in them." "If a man who stole food because he was hungry is sent to jail and does his time, he gets no job because he is a thief, then he steals again (for the same reason)and people say "see, he gine never change he teifin ways". My grandfather was always frustrated by society and tried to help those he could. Some of you are living with criminals that have not yet been caught. Love usually transends law and I wish them the best of luck, they will have a lot of hypocrisy to deal with. If two prison warders marry and one is subsequently arrested and sent to jail, will they have to divorce when the spouse becomes an "ex con"?

E : 11/23/2009

WARDER IN A KNOT : 11/23/2009
Half of the persons who have criticize this couple relationship should be shame, when half of you are probably living with criminals and don't know. From reading the story, they got involved after he had served his time in prison. I wish them all the best.

WARDER IN A KNOT : 11/23/2009
WARDER IN A KNOT. Love KNOT NO DOUBT, Congratulations, may your Marriage be Richer and until Death comes i pray you share a happy life together. Better you share a happy married life than having a job and be unhappy in that job/life, lots of women out here will love to trade places with you.Prepare your selves for the worst and hope for the best possible outcome. The most important thing is your commitment to each other. His dept to society has been paid. He is gainfully employed,time to put this baby to rest.have a good life.

As usual IGNORE THE RULES : 11/23/2009
that is why there are so many people up Dodds to begin with...

KNOWINGLY BREAKING THE RULES IS ABUSE : 11/23/2009
If ignorance of the law is no excuse… then Knowledge of the law is outright abuse. This prison officer knew the law and obviously her love for the X-convict over shadowed the consequences of her action. She has compromised the rules of her job and therefore should be released from the position and from the entire prison system. The system can offer some leniency taking into consideration that “love knows no bounds”.. that love can literally cloud a person’s judgment and instead of “firing” her can reassign her to another branch of the Government. Sometimes love makes us throw caution to the wind and demands of others understanding and compassion of those actions…such is the case here. However, the bigger issue here is that the prison system has to maintain its integrity as the place that “holds” persons accountably for their crimes and to allow its work force rules to be broken will indeed be such a conflict of standards

Are you serious : 11/23/2009
WOW, I do not know how this story is even news worth far less how it even got in the news. It is even more amazing to me how it is able to capture so many comments and attention. There is a world wide recession, unemployment, fledgling tourism product and this is worth comment. Two people got married, just like what happens every day all over the world. That is it not much more. The level of attention to this story is truly Barbados. “Just beyond your imagination”.

: 11/23/2009
BarBajan in SE London. Mr Vaughan's inprisonment was 6 years for gun and ammunition charges.

BARBADOS REALY WANT A CHANGE : 11/23/2009
WHEN I WAS GOING SCHOOL A TEACHER GET A STUDENT WID CHILD AND NO QUESTIONS WAS ASKED CAUSE IT WAS QUOTE ON QUOTE A TEACHER IT WAS OK AND HE HAD A GOOD JOB IT WAS FINE.BUT NOW SHE CANNOT MARRIED AN EXCON "MY GIRL ,THE SAME WHY HOW YOUR MAN CAME OUT AND FIND A HUSSLE YOU FIND ONE TO AND TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEM JOB,THEM CANNOT TELL YOU WHO TO FALL IN LOVE WITH.

: 11/22/2009
Where all the good men gone? They seem to be in jail. What do I have to get one? I am looking for a job in a jail so my dream can come true.

good point Alzima's : 11/22/2009
if the couple was living together and not married would that make it ok?
bajan in montreal

: 11/22/2009
I have a friend who has just left Dodds, he said tht relationships occur all the time within the prison, between wardens and inmates, he also said that he and other inmates observered wardens having sex when they thought that the inmates were asleep, as I'm not there I don't know whether these things are fact, however, given the environment and the close proximaty between the wardens and the inmates I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if there was some truth in it.

: 11/22/2009
Bemused, i understood and I might nbe wrong that the person talking about condoms as implying that as sex obviously happens inside between prisoners that it would make sense to give the inmates condoms in order to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

JUDGE NOT ,AND CAST THE FIRST STONE : 11/22/2009
Everybody talking , but what crime he commit ,this time he in jail for child support or ZR fines
leave de people alone and MYOB
de almighty put people in situation ,my be she was his angel to change him . steriotype Bajans.
CONGRATS YOU BOTH AND BLESSING IN THE FUTURE.MAKE LOTS OF BABIES AND DONT LET THEM GO DODDS

: 11/22/2009
Glad - I missed your point. These two people have fallen in love and got married. I wish them every happiness. But the issue here, as I see it, is not about the two people falling in love. It is about the laws governing a relationship between a Con (ex) and a serving prison officer which should be adhered to. I agree that Mrs Vaughan should be transferred away from the prison service so as to remove any breach of security in that Institution. No doubt we will be hearing from the Union talking about Social Partneship or something.
An Observer

warden : 11/22/2009
stop worrying inew of aprisonwarden who marry aasupperent in thesame prison and he was even older then she stop worrying and mr nurse know those to people so what the different

Re Wardens marrage to ex. prisoner : 11/22/2009
It bothers me to think that in this day and age Barbadians could still be having such low morals.
I am a Barbadian high ranking prison officer and with all the laws governing our profession I do beleive with out a doubt and with out hesitation that Shanelle should have been inmediately given her walking papers unless she he had brought the courtship to the attention of the of the 'officer in charge' and had gotten permission from Him/Her.

perplexed : 11/21/2009
I am going to assume that Pointer Sister perhaps did not have a secondary education, so i am going to write slowly and in blocks so she can understand. NURSES DO NOT GUARD PRISONERS...TEACHERS DO NOT GUARD PRISONERS...DOCTORS DO NOT GUARD PRISONERS...THEREFORE THEY CAN MARRY THEIR FORMER PATIENTS, STUDENTS OR NANNIES. THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURITY AT A PRISON. THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST THAT ASSOCIATION AS LONG AS BOTH PARTIES ARE OVER 16. PRISON WARDERS ARE DIFFERENT. THEY GUARD PRISONERS, THEY WORK AT A PRISON, THEIR JOB IS ONE OF SECURITY. THERE ARE LAWS GOVERNING THEIR ASSOCIATIONS.
Now please rewrite this in your notebook 100 times and recite it...perhaps you W-I-L-L U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D

ON LOVE'S SIDE : 11/21/2009
SOLUTION TO VAUGHANS SITUATION - PERHAPS JOHN NURSE SHOULD GIVE THE COUPLE RETROACTIVE PERMISSION TO "COMMUNICATE" AND "ASSOCIATE", THEREFORE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW.
OF COURSE, IF HE DID THAT, HE WOULD GIVE FREUNDEL STUART A FIT, AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT. HE WOULD ALSO BE SETTING A BAD PRECEDENT.
BUT MOST OF ALL, HE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A JOB IN BERMUDA OR THE BAHAMAS BY JANUARY.

tragic situation : 11/21/2009
here are two resolutions to the situation...Mr Vaughans either apply or pay to get your record expunged, therefore you would have a clean record and would not be classified as an ex-convict.
Or, let Mrs Vaughan resign and reapply. This way, if she gets back her job, she would have been married to an ex-prisoner BEFORE she gets into the service.
If both of these fail, perhaps you should consider applying for the job as superintendent of prisons, if you are successful (this is barbados and it is possible) then you can lobby to have the law relating to ex-prisoners and guards repealed.
If that too fails, then the best thing to do is you both run for political office. There is a lot of your situation going on there too

disappointed : 11/21/2009
why transfer her and discipline her as well? I would either discipline her by firing her or simply transfer her, but not both. It seems like double punishment. I understand that this young lady and several others were facilitated at the prison after bringing letters of recommendation from a politician in the former government.

Lovesick : 11/21/2009
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I am at Dodds looking for a wife,
what about you?

love birds : 11/21/2009
what bajans should know is that this situation is not an isolated one. There are at least three other warders who got men that were ex-cons and had them when them did lock up. That woman that get married to folkes meet him in prison although she aint no guard. And then there is another woman that big-up that got an ex-prisoner. But she aint no guard either. You can't stop people from liking one another but the guards should know better. you want to tell me that them working with so many male guards and if them want a man them can't get one from among them colleagues, them got to go and sneak bout in the bond house and store room with prisoners.

love's labour found : 11/21/2009
This situation is an indictment on all the former boyfriends of this young lady. You should all be ashamed. Good luck to you, Shanelle.

wedding bliss : 11/21/2009
WANTED
A law-abiding male with a clean criminal record and who has never been an inmate. Must have own home, car and a job. Must be marriage material and understand that his prospective wife might have to work night shifts and will constantly be in the presence of other man - good, bad and indifferent.
Signed: Female prison warder

warder wrong : 11/21/2009
Did I read correctly? Is some clown suggesting now that we make condoms available in prison for the warders and the prisoners? Lol! Lord, your people ready, come for your world!

Phew! : 11/21/2009
The Vaughans' relationship started after he left prison. Here is another truth. If you mix lime, water and sugar you will get sour-sop punch.

scenario : 11/21/2009
PICTURE THIS - Teacher at school has a 16-year-old student in his class. He falls in love and decides she is of age and he wants to marry her...and continue to teach her as well. Oh dear, it's true love, yes, smooch, smooch. But does the Ministry allow him to continue teaching this "bride-to-be" after their intentions are known? You bleeding heart, lovey-dovies make the decision. parents, teachers or otherwise, and then communicate your answers to John Nurse, Freundel Stuart, and the Vaughans.

prison cupids : 11/21/2009
In the immortal words of Tina Turner, "what's love got to do with it?"

foolishness : 11/21/2009
KEEPING A CLEAN SLATE - I believe that you are keeping a clean brain. The issue has nothing to do with falling in love and deserving a second chance. IT IS ABOUT S-E-C-U-R-I-T-Y. Jesus! A prison should not only be secure but there should be the perception that all is secure. How the hell can such a belief be maintained if a compromised worker is employed within an environment that people are always seeking to breach? As profound as people are trying to make this, this situation has nothing to do with rocket science

: 11/21/2009
wHAT HAPPENS if a Nurse marries an ex-patient; a doctor maries his patient; a teacher marries an ex-student; a man marries his nanny. jUST ASKING. The point is that a woman married a man and not as Gabby sang a couple of years ago -----A MAN MARRIED A MAN !

: 11/21/2009
People keep talking ignorance bout love, love, love. This has nothing to do with love. Resign and go home and love your husband, but how the hell can you be a prison warder and be married to an ex-convict and creating the spectre or perception of a likely breach? Jesus! Are we all so dumb that we cannot see the folly of this situation. Transfer her to be a government security guard at the post office or at the airport, or seaport or some other government building where one does not have to worry about people trying to escape or somebody smuggling in something.

NAIVE WARDER : 11/21/2009
LIKE MOST THINGS THE AUTHORITIES WILL PUSSY-FOOT WITH THIS SITUATION AND THIS WOMAN WILL BE ALLOWED TO TO STAY AT DODDS MINGLING WITH HER HUSBANDS EX-FRIENDS AND THEN RETURNING HOME TO HIM, WHILE ENSURING THAT SECURITY IS MAINTAINED AT HER WORKPLACE. THIS COUNTRY IS MORE AMUSING THAN LILIPUT. A THIRD WORLD JOKE PLACE!

Leave the job : 11/21/2009
Bajans think they can change the rules to suit them. My family work for the same company. If my wife is working the cash register and I am shoping in the store I can't go to her to be checked out.That is the rules from the company.This is nothing to do with love.She could stay with him but leave the job.Those rules were there before she got the job.In life you have to have rules.

wedding stripes : 11/21/2009
i spent time behind bars and most of the things that i get in prison that i shouldn't, i get through one particlar guard. Some of the guards and prisoners does live like husband and wife, men and women, men and men, women and women and this did going on when i was in there in 2002. Nobody cant stop nobody from liking nobody but everybody know that if you want to get something in the prison get somebody on the outside to get it in for you through a prison guard. That girl got to watch she self because prisoners on the inside and ex-prisoners on the outside going be looking to use she and vaughans to get things inside for their friends

Very Interesting Logic Y.B. : 11/21/2009
No wonder some youths are so messed up. What other rules would you suggest we ignore? Maybe, others should be able to take our property if they have a more urgent need? Or there should be absolutely no limit to the speed we operate a vehicle? And if we want to marry a sheep, why shouldn't we be able to do that. The simple fact is, in protecting the rights of the majority, sometimes, individual right have to be disadvantaged. The lady does not have to give up her husband, but she can't have it both ways.

: 11/21/2009
These two people found/met each other and fell in love, regardless if the circumstance, lovfe does not know about right and wrong, it just happens, so good luck to them. Considering he is no longer in prison there now seems little point in transfering her.
However, of more concerning and which should definately be on the agenda at these high profile meetings are the relationships which occur betweem inmates and the lack of condoms avilable it is obvious that intimacy will occur in such environments whether we agree with it or not, therefore it makes more sense that the inmates are given the opportunity to to practice safe sex, as opposed to no measures being in place, and diseases being caught and spread amongest the prison population and following thye inmates release from jail - just a thought!.

Warder in a knot : 11/21/2009
I strongly believe that everyone deserves a chance. As far as I understand this. The man is an ex inmate. This relationship seemed to have developed after his term was served. How do we expect these persons to fit back into society if they are ostracized?

In a knot : 11/21/2009
Why does a woman have to slack to marry a excon ?

: 11/21/2009
Laws are there to be obeyed. People have rights under the Constitution but there are always provisos to ensure that civil society functions properly. Some of these idiots that are suggesting that rules should be ignored should know better. The average citizen can go on strike, but a police officer cannot take strike action. The reason for that should be obvious and does not merit explanation.
The Prime Minister of this country is an attorney, but while he is Prime Minister he cannot go to court and practise his profession. The reason for that should be obvious and does not merit explanation.
We have freedom of speech but if I make a confession to my Catholic priest or speak to my attorney-at-law on a personal legal matter, they cannot go on the call-in programmes and exercise their right to free speech where my business is concerned. The reason for that should be obvious and does not merit explanation.
You have a right to associate with whomever you desire, but a soldier cannot take a terrorist onto his base and give him a guided tour of the armoury and other strategic points. The reason for that should be obvious and does not merit explanation.
Mrs Vaughan is a prison warder with access to the prison and its inmates. She cannot leave work at Dodds, go home to an ex-convict and then return to the prison the next day. Of course, she can leave work at any other facility where security is not an issue, and then go home to Mr Vaughan.
The reason for that should be obvious and does not merit explanation.

Kept under wraps!!! : 11/21/2009
How come the astute Chief didn't know of this and act on it? Two straight LONG years of courtship!!!!!. somebody is napping.......LOOK how much could have happened in two years.... Other resignations!
ALZIMA'S

MUST GO : 11/21/2009
These are some of the major and problems contributing to serious prison breeches and She should have been gone already.
Bajan

STOP MISSING THE POINT : 11/21/2009
You guys on here against the rules of the prison is missing the point. She is a major part of dodds and being a part of the prison she has a responsibility to set positive examples of following rules at all times. No one is against her marrying who she married, she is entitled, but there are consequences she will have to deal with, because there are rules stating that she is not to marry such a person who went through the system. RULES are RULES and this is why she is a warden in the first place, to many people break rules and end up in her work place. So get with the program if people other places in barbados is breaking rules like someone below said this is where the correction will begin, it must start somewhere and Mr. Nurse says it will under his management. If mrs. vaughn love her husband so much she will give up the job and find another one where it is ok to be with an ex-prisoner.

Get a Life Barbados : 11/21/2009
so marrying an ex-con is slack...wow so even after you do your time you can't move on have a life. I mean if there are rules that she broke I can understand being upset but you can't control who you fall in love with. Perhaps the rules need to be re-examined. Get real people all this humbug and the people happy how many of you posting here in a loving relationship? Get over it and get a life

To SLYVESTER K. : 11/21/2009
Transfer them where? We have only one prison in Barbados.They would have to be transferred out of the prison service to positions commensurate with their training and qualifications.

: 11/21/2009
Barbados is not ready for this type of change. It would have been in Mrs Vaughan best interest if she had requested a transfer as soon as things looked like a solid relationship was forming.

emotional hogwash : 11/21/2009
One of the greatest problems with Barbadians is that they reason with their hearts and not their brains. People are getting all emotional about a situation that is quite simple.
No one is telling this young, attractive prison warder that she cannot marry whoever she pleases to. No one is saying that Mr Vaughan can not and has not rehabilitated. Those are not the issues.
The issues are about the law and security.
She is a prison officer, he is an ex-convict who obviously would still have acquaintances in the prison system.
Whether something questionable will occur or not, she is a conduit between those prisoners still at Dodds and her husband. The point here is that although nothing might ever happen as a result of this connection, perceptions of what can occur and the possibilities cannot be ignored. SHE IS WORKING IN A PRISON, FOR GOD'S SAKE!
At the prison enquiry into Glendairy some years ago it was brought to light that one of the biggest problems there and the reason for so many cellphones, drugs and other contraband getting into the prison was as a result of prisoners and warders fraternising too closely.
No one is accusing this particular warder of anything but fingers would obviously be pointed at her if, for example, some friend of her husband still in the system was caught with contraband.
Therefore one can see why these rules are in place, not only to protect and safeguard the prison but also in the interest of non-suspecting, vulnerable and gullible warders.
This young lady can not have her cake and eat it too. By all means, stick with your husband, but you should resign in your own interest and that of HMP Dodds.
She has clearly broken the law, which she willingly did, and must now face the consequences.
I am sure that if we had a convicted bugger
being denied a job as the coach of a little boys' football team, that some of the fanciful foolishness that I am now reading (and hearing) would not surface. Sometimes in our haste to be more holy than Jesus Christ, we can be as naive as Santa Claus. Let the rule of law prevail.
P.S What the Government should be investigating is that given the reports of rampant sexual behaviour between some warders and prisoners, how is that not one warder has been transferred from the prison. Methinks John Nurse has quite a few questions to answer

Saw it coming! : 11/21/2009
Earlier I wrote that I would think twice maybe thrice if I were a Prison Officer, because I saw this coming. Perhaps Mrs Vaughan thought long and hard about it and saw it coming as well, but love is blind and sometimes compelling. She knew the rules and standards, and she made her choice. Who knows whether she was tired of HMP and just waiting to go (or be sent). Who knows whether she had legal advice on this and if so I hope it was smart. Apart from having broken the rules, the Superintendent now has to play detective and investigate whether there was any contact during Mr Vaughan's incarceration. How easy, difficult, worthwhile or necessary that is would be another story because the proof of marriage is already there. If there is no evidence of contact, I would simply transfer her elsewhere. But Barbadians have strange ways of thinking and I wouldn't be surprised if the subject of 'loyalty to a cause' hangs around her for a long time. I say no more on that. To be or not to be jugemental is another issue. What do we know of Mr Vaughan's past. Was he such a criminal that he does not deserve to be accepted back into society? Was he a model or trusted prisoner inside or one of the bag eggs who terrorised the place daily? Do we forgive, forget and move on? Are we sincere about rehabilitation?
How many bosses have broken similar rules with illicit affairs in their businesses and have been able to wipe their mouths clean? Finally, when do we accept that Barbados is a changing society like the rest of the world?
Retired.

Warder in Knot : 11/21/2009
It seems like every family in Barbados had a criminal in their midst at some time or another, so pray tell me how do warders separate themselves from the general public? I am not saying that warders should pick up persons in prison and marry them upon their release. I am just saying that Barbados is too small to have such rules in place regarding marrying excons. The lady did not fall in love with the con while he was in jail. The relationship developed later and by chance. Everyone is entitled to marry who or whatever they want to marry. Barbados is a democratic society; Which means we have the right to make decisions for ourselves that may not be favorable to society as a whole. The prison representatives should focus on employment programs that will train young people to be productive when they get out of jail instead of using this woman's marriage to shied their inadequacies.

: 11/21/2009
Discipline
Dismiss her, laws and rules are to be adhered to.

: 11/21/2009
Isn't there a statute somewhere that says that female teachers have to get permision to get married. And that civil servants have to get permission to travel overseas? Just an example of the outdated statutes that NEED to be updated. Why are they going to pick on the woman. Let the people live.

: 11/21/2009
transfer hell she should be fired what are her plans when he gets looked up again she would get extra long unsupervised conjugal visits or that she could carry in certain items to his friends that are still on the inside

Love being blind... : 11/21/2009
No-one seem to take into account that it may be a breach in security to have wardens and inmates in personal relationships. The ex-convicts can still have associates and friends on the inside. How can a warden be impartial with this situation? Love is blind. This is a bit more complex than love and marriage.
Bajan-cal

rules my foot : 11/21/2009
There is a part in the bible which states all those who have`nt sin to cast the first stone how many of us have made mistakes in this life he did his time why should he have to pay for the rest of his life cant people change and why should she be punish for falling in love there are a lot of corupt people out there in high places that does`nt draw this much attention i dont think this article should have been publish in the first place,ther is so much more going on in b/dos to write about.

prison : 11/21/2009
Women in Barbados are too slack. Imagine stooping so low as to marry an ex-con.
Just looking at the man, you could see that he is a 'sheep-stealer' (lol)
Have some respect for yourself....pleeease !!!

prison : 11/21/2009
Women in Barbados are too slack. Imagine stooping so low as to marry an ex-con.
Have some respect for yourself....pleeease !!!

She has made her choice. : 11/21/2009
I wish Mrs. Vaughan all the best , but the fact remains that she is employed in a high security environment and there are rules in place to maintain the srcurity. If she did not know she should have or been big enough to marry the man and leave the job. She is potentially a security risk and apparently not very bright. i think she and the prison service should part company.

Consequences : 11/21/2009
You people have to realise that there must be systems in place to ensure that security remains paramount at the institution.Rules are put in place and if a person agrees to those rules before they start work they should abide by them.She had an opportunity to let the authorities know of teh situation or even resign her post.If this continues there might be cases where wardens are acting as liasons bewteen prisoners and people on the outside (which probably goes on anyway) .I am glad she found love but at the same time rules are rules and there are some rules that cannot be twisted without compromising the security at the institution.

1974 Rule Needs Touch of Reality : 11/21/2009
The 1974 Prison Rule is a bit too broad and too impractical. I think it needs revising.
"A prison officer shall not knowingly communicate or associate with an ex-prisoner, or with the friends and relatives of a prisoner or ex-prisoner except with the permission of the officer-in-charge."
The rule ignores the size of the island, common inter-human communication and politeness in the island etc. Also, it seems to imply that ex-prisoners cannot be rehabiliated and thus person who are not "average persons" should shun them. Rude, impractical and not addressing the real concern!
Warders need to ask every service provider about his/her prison history before engaging in conversation or using the service. Taxi drivers like Adrian will not get any fares from Warders in the future. Landscaping guys, hairdressers, barbers, car washers, trainers etc. if you had a prison sentence steer clear of warders.
Congrats to the newly weds! I hope all is as serendipitous as it seemed and that the realationship is not unduly stressed by rules and the usual asinine stuff civil servants tend to be concerned with whilst other more important structures and programmes deteriorate.

: 11/21/2009
I concur! She is not the average Joe and should be disciplined and transferred. Where else would she go?

FACTS : 11/21/2009
@ Y B, PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT UNTIL YOU KNOW THE WHOLE STORY THEN SSSSHHHH

FEMALE/MALE ASSOCIATION : 11/21/2009
THIS IS A GREAT PROBLEM FOR THE PRISON SERVICE, AND IT SHOULD NOT ONLY BE FOR INMATES AND PRISON OFFICERS NOT TO BE INTIMATE , BUT ALSO FOR PRISONER OFFICERS WITH PRISON OFFICERS AS WELL YOU CANNOT HAVE A SECURE ENVIRONMENT AT THE PRISON WITH THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR, WHO IS GOING TO RESPECT WHO IF A PRISON OFFICER BOSS IS HIS/HER GIRLFRIEND/HUSBAND/BOYFRIEND AND ANOTHER ONE WANTS TO LODGE A COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM/HER?. MY TAKE IS TO TRANSFER ONE HALF OF THE KNOWING COUPLES, AND EITHER THE BOYFRIEND OR THE GIRLFRIEND THAT WAY THE PRISON WILL RUN A LITTLE BETTER.

Wake Up : 11/21/2009
Maybe the people in charge should look at this situation in positive manner opposed to a negative manner. Maybe this marriage will be another influencing factor for Vaughn to continue on a good path and to not re- offend and end up right back in jail, where he is supported by our tax money. Also this marriage is the least of the governments and prisons problems, maybe the government should direct their interest and efforts to correcting the many unacceptable situations that occur behind the prison walls.

What is she being punished for? : 11/21/2009
It sounds like those statutes need to be changed. This is the 21st century, not the 1600s. I could understand the rendering of penalties for association with an inmate, but not with an ex-prisoner. Since this guy has paid his debt to society, must he continue to do so as a free man? Invariably, should she be treated this way for falling in love with him after he was released from prison? Our society is so unforgiving and it seems that we hold grudges against people for life. We have to realize that people must be given the opportunity to change and move on with their lives. It is good that he now has the right role model in his live. People, get over it and move on!!!!!

WARDER IN A KNOT : 11/21/2009
Well I am really shocked about this situation. I never knew to be a prision warder you had to sign away your rights to choose who you want to be friends with outside the the prison walls. Mrs.Shanelle Ellis Vaughan it seems to me that soon you will have to choose if you are going to remain at your P.O.E or will remain Mrs Vaughan.

pEOPLE SHOULD MARRY WHO THEY WANT : 11/21/2009
I understand what the law says to an extent. But, the man is no longer an inmate so why shouldn't they have a relationship if that's what they want. How can anybody stand in the way of love? That's their personal buisiness. Nobody should be able to choose your partner for you. I wish you two a blessed, long and fulfilling marriage.

: 11/21/2009
NONSENSE TO TRANSFER THE WOMAN--JUST GRANT PERMISSION AND MOVE ON, What are we human beings or what ????